Friday, August 7, 2009

[fast5] Re: Need encouragement/ spiritual practice?

 

Hi Heather-

It's my understanding that free range chicken, wild deer, and grass fed cattle contain loads of omega-3 fats. I found this article that describes a study that shows that omega 3's help to make you feel full. Here's the link: http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Omega-3-boosts-satiety-during-weight-loss-study .

Not saying this is what you're experiencing but it is a link in the chain, I'm sure.

-Rick

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> This hit home: it is one reason we do Longhorn and heritage breeds.
>
> What I am finding is that the "for production" breeds basically
> require a lot of human help to survive. I do not have the time or
> energy. I raised meat chickens once, and found it really depressing.
>
> There are a lot of stories about this that show up in science
> magazines. In Africa, the "native" cows don't grow very fast,
> and they are mean. But they can fight off local predators (big
> horns) and they survive anything.
>
> Texas Longhorns are the remnants of some cows that the Spaniards
> let loose in the 1500's or so. They multiplied massively, and were
> mostly all "harvested" in the 1800's. But they simply don't require care.
> Actually you *can't* care for them, because a Longhorn cow isn't going
> to let you anywhere near her calf! They are nice enough though, if
> they know you, and extremely intelligent.
>
> In terms of fasting ... these wild cows can live off next to nothing.
> When you look at them, they look tough and skinny. In fact, they
> have very little fat (and none of it is subcutaneous, unlike Angus).
> They do have less meat than an Angus, and bigger, stronger, bones.
> Which is bad for farmers who are paid by the pound.
>
> But the meat is *different* and it fills a person up faster. Ditto for
> free-range chickens. It is extremely difficult to eat much of it, no
> matter how tasty it is. It seems to hit the "I'm full" button in a way
> that factory-farmed meat does not. One beef a year is plenty for a
> family, or maybe two families, and one chicken a week is enough
> too (esp. when you add the eggs).
>
> I have no idea why that is, but it would make an interesting study.
> I'm pretty sure that Americans are consuming WAY more than
> they actually need, because the "off button" is jammed.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:09 AM, <havens@...> wrote:
> > I was really interested in your numbers about the $$$$ involved with
> > skipping one meal per week.
> >
> > But we raise cattle, and I dairy-farmed for 25 years, and not all
> > meat/dairy products are produced in the "big" farm picture.
> >
> > Lots of farmers and livestock producers are doing what they think is best
> > for the health and welfare of the crops and livestock they grow.  The
> > almighty buck is just a necessary evil of the  banker.  Most farmers get
> > less than a 2% return on investment on everything they own, and usually do
> > not even calculate a return on labor for the hours they work.  It would be
> > too depressing to even think about.
> >
> > Livestock producers check cattle 7 days a week, often every 2 hours all
> > day and night long, in calving season.  We take calves into the house to
> > try and get them warmed up in cold weather, and learn how to give IVs and
> > shots and medications only if necessary to get them to live.  The stories
> > I can tell you about farmers putting their livestock before themselves and
> > their families are endless.
> >
> > Even the big boys try and get the livestock to live.   Essential to their
> > bottom line.    I read an article once about comparing the hormones in
> > beef to that in fresh lettuce, and the lettuce was much higher.....but I
> > have to find it again.  I will try and not put out that kind of info
> > without a direct source.
> >
> > We feed our own cattle out, and do no implants or hormones, and there
> > isn't a market for selling 60 head of cattle handled this way, to offset
> > the extra costs.
> >
> > There is a gap between the small operations that grown things this way,
> > and people concerned about these issues.
> >
> > Just an honest opinion/observation from "the other side"
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >>
> >> You make a good point as to what would happen if we all fasted one day a
> >> week.  I think I posted a few months back something about the effect
> >> Fast-5 would make on the economy if only one million people went on
> >> Fast-5.  If I save $200 a month by not eating lunch or dinner, you
> >> multiply that times one million, you would take $200,000,000 out of the
> >> food industry per month!  That would be quite a hit to the food growers
> >> and animal farmers.  BUT... along the same lines, since they wouldn't have
> >> to make so much food, we might be able to go back to a more humane way of
> >> raising animals than what is used now, like Heather mentioned.  The
> >> animals would be happier and we might be as well.
> >>
> >> -Rick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "erica.stelcik" <erica.stelcik@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yea, I know. It was a touchy question to ask. I do not associate myself
> >>> with any religion, but I think many religions do use fasting as a
> >>> spiritual practice, just not on a regular (monthly, weekly, daily)
> >>> schedule. If I'm wrong about this, let me know.
> >>>
> >>> I know some groups that try to do meatless Mondays. I wonder if we
> >>> should also have Fasting Fridays, for those of us who eat multiple times
> >>> a day. Or maybe, one day just doesn't cut it, but can you imagine if
> >>> everyone did fast one day a week, what could happen!?
> >>>
> >>> ~Erica
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>

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