Sunday, October 31, 2010

Re: [fast5] Chewing Re: Rice

 

I think just *paying attention* to your food is a key thing. Most of us have been trained to NOT pay attention, because the thing was (when I was growing up) to "do what you are told". That usually meant: eat what you are given. That meant: forget about your opinions about this food.


I rebelled against this at some point. Part of it is a family story about my Dad. He was a really big baby (runs in the family). Big and healthy. Born in pre-war Germany. The docs told grandma: he only should have 4 oz of milk.

Now this tells me 2 things: 1) He didn't get breastmilk. The docs were ALSO saying: don't bother with that, use cows!  2) The docs know best how much this baby needs. Forget that he is twice the weight of the average babe. WE know how much he needs to eat.

As grandma told it, Dad cried and cried. He was hungry. She was steadfast though, and didn't feed him. He was only supposed to get 4 oz. Who cares that he wants more? You have to discipline this young guy!

OK, does that sound harsh? It does to me. Also stupid. But back then, that was how people thought. When I had my own first baby, and asked "how much should I feed her?" the doc just laughed, "Don't worry about it. You can't overfeed a baby".

So the baby docs got smarter I think! He was correct. My daughter occasionally ate too much ... and threw it up again. She simply could NOT eat too much.

What does this have to do with chewing? I think we "scarf" our food ... wolf it down as fast as we can. Partially to get around our own inner voice that would tell us to "stop eating". Because as my daughter got older --- 4 or 5 --- she would not eat much. And pretty much everyone except me would say "eat more! eat more!". One stick of broccoli was simply not enough.

But I never made her eat more, because ... the "skill" of eating more than what you need is not a skill. It's the ability to ignore your body's signals ... kinda like sword swallowing or those overeating competitions or walking a tightrope. There is no way I know how much her body needs. If she was overly skinny I might make an issue of it, but she isn't. 



On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:16 PM, tamaratornado <tamaratornado@yahoo.com> wrote:
When I chew my food well, I notice that the more I chew, the more I taste my food. I notice that whole foods taste better as I chew, while junk foods tend to taste worse the more I chew (except chocolate candy!) I also notice that if the food is even just slightly spoiled, I will taste the spoiledness of it more when I chew - then it's eewww, spit it out!

You are supposed to get more nutrients from your food if you chew well. Some foods are especially important to chew, such as grains.


 
 

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Re: [epilepsy] Re: Junk Email Senders

 

Hi Steve,

That is good advice! I have had these and other problems with my email. I will only open emails that are from senders that I am familiar with. I have had others advise me to do this too. There will be no benefit to the hackers or hi-jackers if we ignore their emails. Take care.

Terry

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:25 PM, "Steve" <stephenpales@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The simple thing to do which I've always done is simply not open anything I see in a post in the group or by email that has only a web site listed to click on. Unless I know who its from, and I trust the person enough that they don't send junk I know is a waste of time to look at. Besides that, why worry about it, its simply something to ignore and that is that (smile). If anybody makes a post with junk mail in the group, we can simply ignore it and not comment on it. Comments on it is wasting our time and finger tip strength (smile). I would rather email a friend rather than comment on it. Take care, keep a smile on your face!
>
> Steve
>
> --- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "cutesta_007" <cutesta_007@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone contacted Yahoo with this ? They are usually helpful, if you set all emails to go to your original email box, you should be-able to spam unwanted emails and report it, I'm not sure what sort of junk emails that people are receiving or whether they are easy enough to identify as junk ? and I don't know if any of it helps, but if not then I'm sure someone will have the right answers, don't let it put anyone off, Have a great day everyone :)
> >
> > --- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Julie Hope <epilepsyhealth@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anything with attachments I have my email set not to open....Is there any way you can block them from your
> > > end...specially should the same one be coming back and back. Not familiar with the yahoo groups but you would
> > > think there would be a way to block people not wanted.
> > > Just my 2 cents worth.
> > > Julie
> > >
> > > Julie Hope
> > > epilepsyhealth@
> > > http://www.2betrhealth.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "stephen pales" <stephenpales@>
> > > To: <epilepsy@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Junk Email Senders
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jewl,
> > >
> > > We both have been on the junk mail list to Fred in the EPILEPSY group. I just
> > > wanted to let you know that I've been emailing with him about it. I sent him
> > > what I get (I know you get it also) to show him what I'm receiving. By me, is
> > > now learning that somebody, some how is emailing the junk mail out. So, some
> > > how somebody has gotten into his email address without him even knowing it.
> > >
> > > Fred is trying to do what it can to stop it if he can. So, just wanted to let
> > > you know its not Fred in the group who is doing it under his email address (if
> > > he is telling the truth). Fred told me to simply delete anything I get with a
> > > web site to click on.
> > >
> > > This won't stop it from getting out, but its not Fred who is doing it. Take
> > > care Jewl, keep a smile on your face!
> > >
> > > Friends always, Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jewl <wallja99@>
> > > To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 4:56:34 PM
> > > Subject: [epilepsy] Junk Email Senders
> > >
> > >
> > > There is a growing problem I am seeing in the group and that is that we are
> > > being added to peoples Junk Email accounts.
> > >
> > > I and a lot of others have been getting invites to face-book pages and jokes
> > > upon other junk and invites.
> > >
> > > Do not bombard your fellow members with all these emails.
> > > If they ask you too, take them off your list.
> > >
> > > I have asked this one person over and over to stop and they wont.
> > >
> > > I am going to have to start moderating anyone I have to many complaints about.
> > > If they will not comply or answer emails asking them to stop.
> > >
> > > If you have any other ideas let me know. It is getting way out of hand
> > > and I wont have my members harassed.
> > >
> > > wallja99@
> > >
> > > Jewl, TX
> > >
> > > Information on Seizure Response/Alert Dogs
> > > http://tagert.homestead.com/msjewl.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[fast5] Chewing Re: Rice

 

When I chew my food well, I notice that the more I chew, the more I taste my food. I notice that whole foods taste better as I chew, while junk foods tend to taste worse the more I chew (except chocolate candy!) I also notice that if the food is even just slightly spoiled, I will taste the spoiledness of it more when I chew - then it's eewww, spit it out!

You are supposed to get more nutrients from your food if you chew well. Some foods are especially important to chew, such as grains.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "tamaratornado" <tamaratornado@...> wrote:
>
> I remember now my macrobiotic counselor's name: Lino Stanchich. He wrote a book: "Power Eating Program: You Are How You Eat" that's all about how important it is to chew your food thoroughly. His father survived Nazi concentration camps, partly because he chewed his food thoroughly. In that book, he says that if you chew brown rice very well for a long time, you can get high from it. I was never able to do it though. My friend could. I don't have the book anymore.
> I liked him, he was a great guy.
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "tamaratornado" <tamaratornado@> wrote:
> >
> > Did you ever get high from chewing rice?
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@> wrote:
> > >
> > > See, and I did the opposite. I never ate rice. Until I started eating fish
> > > and stir fry ... then it seemed to "need" the rice.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:38 AM, tamaratornado <tamaratornado@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I used to be macrobiotic. We ate a lot of brown rice. A LOT. I liked it.
> > > > One of my teachers wrote in his book (about the importance of chewing) that
> > > > if you chew brown rice long enough you get a spiritual high. My friend who
> > > > was macrobiotic said she felt this, but I never did.
> > > >
> > > > Now I don't eat that way anymore, I follow a paleo diet - no grains. I am
> > > > surprised I don't miss rice: I don't crave it at all. I feel indifferent
> > > > toward rice, grains, pasta, breads... I could care less. I only eat them
> > > > once n a blue moon to be polite if I am visiting someone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
> > >
> >
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Re: [fast5] Fiber Menace.. Thoughts?

 

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Churyl Zeviar <churyl@tmail.com> wrote:


> There are sooo many holes in the Fiber Menace thing that I don't know
> where to start.

I would love to hear your thoughts about this... I'm gullible, and
bought what he was saying, hook, line, and sinker. Some perspective
would be awesome.

Since he is getting some popularity, it would be good if someone did a comprehensive review of what he is saying. It is difficult though. A coworker asked me once to review Bob Barefoot's Calcium book and it just drove me nuts ... for 4 pages of his text I had 5 pages of notes! There was so much truthiness mixed with so much misdirection, it was like watching a stage magician. In that case, the basic facts are: Yes, calcium is good stuff, and it's critical to every cell in the body. But the misdirection is: coral calcium isn't a great source of calcium, and Bob Barefoot was basically going after your money.

In the case of "The Fiber Menace" the truth part is:

1. Your gut is supposed to have trillions of bacteria, 
2. They need to be the right kind of bacteria,
3. Grain fibers (the ones touted in the 70's) are problematic in that they are rather irritating and also block nutrients.

The parts about bacteria that he doesn't mention, and maybe doesn't know about, are:

1. The bacteria in your lower intestine eat mainly semi-indigestible polysaccharides, which are basically a kind of fiber. They don't get fed UNLESS you feed them fiber, because everything else you eat gets absorbed before it gets there.

2. Those bacteria are the main source of butyrate. If you eat butyrate, then it gets absorbed before it reaches the colon. 

3. Butyrate is the preferred food of your gut cells. It also kills colon cancer cells.  

So not eating fiber is very bad for your gut! It is possible that eating a lot of fat might feed those butyrate-producing cells, but you would have to eat more fat than your body will absorb in the upper gut, which is a LOT of fat. Usually when people stop eating polysaccharides though, they stop producing the good bacteria.

Now, the other thing is that he is putting all fiber into the same bucket. A lot of the "fiber" that has been touted as "good" is grain fiber, esp. wheat germ and whole wheat. Anyone who knows me knows I think that if there is such a thing as a "bad" food, wheat is it! The gluten in wheat gloms on to the villi in the gut and temporarily prevents them from working correctly, or, if you are celiac, permanently damages them. Wheat is likely at the root for a *whole lot* of the gut problems in the West. The idea that you can write a book about gut damage and not mention gluten is just weird.

But the husk of wheat is also very bad. It's really, really rough: like sandpaper. Also it contains antinutrients that are good at glomming on to nutrients and getting them out of your system. I do think that people who eat that kind of fiber show some better health in one way though: wheat bran blocks absorption of iron, and we absorb too much iron from our diets. The Japanese though, drink tea with their meals, which does the same thing. 

The idea that the Japanese don't eat much "fiber" is hogwash. They might peel their eggplant, but they eat a LOT of vegetables, and also some incredibly good fibers like seaweed, konjac, daikon and sata-imo yams. It is true they are smart enough to not eat brown rice. Basically they are noted for eating lots of "gooey vegetables" ... the kind that are full of the right polysaccharides.

Some of the research done on butyrate concentrates on wheat bran, which is why I think it might have gained popularity:


But in that study, they used oats, guar, or wheat bran ... none of them are an ideal fiber, and there is no cuisine that uses guar much at all (it's a new thing). Konjac yam works better, I think, with fewer effects:


As for the fermentation and bloating ... yes, that is what you get when you have bacteria in your gut! Once you get the right bacteria, there isn't so much bloating or gas ... part of that is just getting used to eating the right foods. A lot of the "gas producers" though aren't bacteria, they are yeast, and they thrive off quickly-digesting foods, esp. stuff like baked goods. They tend to go away though, if you eat the polysaccharides with them (konjac is especially good in that regard, probably pectin too).

I also think Fast-5 helps in this regard, and it was one of my initial reasons for doing it. It is VERY IMPORTANT to have your gut bacteria properly regulated. I think having the gut be EMPTY for some hours lets the gut do housecleaning. Kind of like what happens when you take off your shoes every night to let them air out. If you wear the same shoes all the time they stink worse and worse ... because they get too many of the wrong kind of bacteria in them. I think something similar happens when you fast between meals. The worse kinds of bacteria and yeast die back, and the ones you need (like boulardii) can take over.

Anyway, the information I got was from his website, not his book, so maybe he has some incredible insight there. Mostly what I've gotten though is that it's another "demonize this food" book. We really, really like to demonize one food or another, and we do it without much nuance: we've gone from "sugar is evil" to "fat is evil" to "meat is evil" to now, "fiber is evil". The people who fight against this usually do the insipid "moderation in all things!" response, which really doesn't mean anything (moderate amounts of toxic mushrooms are still very toxic). Fact is though, your brain runs mainly on sugar, protein is essential to your body, and your gut likes fiber, esp. certain kinds of fiber.

The fact is, food is complicated. Human beings have managed for thousands of years to simplify it by means of "cuisines" and "food traditions" ... some cuisines work better than others at keeping people healthy. Turning a cuisine into a chemistry experiment using "macronutrients" as ingredients just doesn't work very well, because there are many kinds of fats, proteins, sugars, and fibers ... and the SOURCE of each is important, as is the freshness and quality. 

The thing is ... YOU have a really good chemistry set built into your brain. You might not be able to say the exact number of grams of fiber or fat in your dinner, but in fact is, if your appestat is working and you are allowing it to work, your body does calculate exactly how much of each nutrient you need right now, and will regulate your intake with incredible accuracy. Your nose and tongue are also very good at detecting fresh food, and when fat is rancid. In order for this system to work, you have to unlearn the "clean your plate!" attitude many of us grew up with. Also the "eat what you are served" attitude. And the "the advertisement looks so good!" attitude. I really and truly think a lot of what I used to eat I ate just because I was "supposed to", either because "everyone else thinks it is great" (donuts!) or "it is good for you, you should eat it".

You need to get some of that "food snobbery" kind of attitude ... don't eat it if it doesn't taste good. Don't eat stuff that makes you feel lousy 2 hours later or the next day. If you have gut issues: keep a food log, see how your gut feels after eating certain foods.

Then: pursue foods that DO make you feel good. I mean, when you get a dinner that just makes you feel great, that tastes great ...write it down. It's a winner! Find really amazing recipes. Explore new fruits (mangoes are awesome!). 

Then you can ignore the "food experts" for a bit, and listen to the chefs. Really GOOD cuisine also happens to be really good for you, oddly enough**. And fast to make too.


**(Ok, I make the caveat that I substitute other stuff for "wheat" when I cook ... wheat is one food I will demonize ... but part of why I do it is that it's so ubiquitous in our food chain that people don't think about it as a possible problem).


Sorry that got kind of long. It IS a complicated subject! 

-- Heather T.
 
 
 
 

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[epilepsy] Re: Junk Email Senders

 

The simple thing to do which I've always done is simply not open anything I see in a post in the group or by email that has only a web site listed to click on. Unless I know who its from, and I trust the person enough that they don't send junk I know is a waste of time to look at. Besides that, why worry about it, its simply something to ignore and that is that (smile). If anybody makes a post with junk mail in the group, we can simply ignore it and not comment on it. Comments on it is wasting our time and finger tip strength (smile). I would rather email a friend rather than comment on it. Take care, keep a smile on your face!

Steve

--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "cutesta_007" <cutesta_007@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone contacted Yahoo with this ? They are usually helpful, if you set all emails to go to your original email box, you should be-able to spam unwanted emails and report it, I'm not sure what sort of junk emails that people are receiving or whether they are easy enough to identify as junk ? and I don't know if any of it helps, but if not then I'm sure someone will have the right answers, don't let it put anyone off, Have a great day everyone :)
>
> --- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Julie Hope <epilepsyhealth@> wrote:
> >
> > Anything with attachments I have my email set not to open....Is there any way you can block them from your
> > end...specially should the same one be coming back and back. Not familiar with the yahoo groups but you would
> > think there would be a way to block people not wanted.
> > Just my 2 cents worth.
> > Julie
> >
> > Julie Hope
> > epilepsyhealth@
> > http://www.2betrhealth.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "stephen pales" <stephenpales@>
> > To: <epilepsy@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Junk Email Senders
> >
> >
> > Hi Jewl,
> >
> > We both have been on the junk mail list to Fred in the EPILEPSY group. I just
> > wanted to let you know that I've been emailing with him about it. I sent him
> > what I get (I know you get it also) to show him what I'm receiving. By me, is
> > now learning that somebody, some how is emailing the junk mail out. So, some
> > how somebody has gotten into his email address without him even knowing it.
> >
> > Fred is trying to do what it can to stop it if he can. So, just wanted to let
> > you know its not Fred in the group who is doing it under his email address (if
> > he is telling the truth). Fred told me to simply delete anything I get with a
> > web site to click on.
> >
> > This won't stop it from getting out, but its not Fred who is doing it. Take
> > care Jewl, keep a smile on your face!
> >
> > Friends always, Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jewl <wallja99@>
> > To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 4:56:34 PM
> > Subject: [epilepsy] Junk Email Senders
> >
> >
> > There is a growing problem I am seeing in the group and that is that we are
> > being added to peoples Junk Email accounts.
> >
> > I and a lot of others have been getting invites to face-book pages and jokes
> > upon other junk and invites.
> >
> > Do not bombard your fellow members with all these emails.
> > If they ask you too, take them off your list.
> >
> > I have asked this one person over and over to stop and they wont.
> >
> > I am going to have to start moderating anyone I have to many complaints about.
> > If they will not comply or answer emails asking them to stop.
> >
> > If you have any other ideas let me know. It is getting way out of hand
> > and I wont have my members harassed.
> >
> > wallja99@
> >
> > Jewl, TX
> >
> > Information on Seizure Response/Alert Dogs
> > http://tagert.homestead.com/msjewl.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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> > to them. This is especially important if you are on digest. This not only helps out the list owner but, it
> > makes messages much easier to read when they arrive in our inboxes.
> >
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[Healthy_Recipes_For_Diabetic_Friends] Minted Scallops With Bacon - 6g Carbs, 1g Fiber

 

Minted Scallops With Bacon - 6g Carbs, 1g Fiber

6 slices bacon
1 1/2 pounds sea scallops, rinsed and patted dry
1/4 cup chopped mint, divided
1 jalapeno pepper, minced
2 tablespoons lime juice
2 tablespoons orange juice

Cook the bacon in a skillet. Transfer to a plate lined with paper toweling and let drain. Remove all but 1 tablespoon of the bacon drippings from the pan.

While the bacon is cooking, toss the scallops with 2 tablespoons of the mint and let sit.

Add the scallops to the hot bacon drippings and cook 2 minutes on each side, or until the they are lightly browned. Transfer the scallops to a bowl.

Crumble the bacon and toss it with the scallops. Depending how hot the jalapeno is (taste a tiny piece), add some or all of it to the scallops. Stir in the remaining 2 tablespoons of mint, the lime and orange juices. Serve immediately.

Makes 4 servings.
Calories 226, Fat 8 g, Carbs 6 g, Sodium 396 mg, Fiber 1 g.

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[Healthy_Recipes_For_Diabetic_Friends] Cherry Stuffed Grilled Chicken - 11g Carbs, 1.1g Fiber

 

Cherry Stuffed Grilled Chicken - 11g Carbs, 1.1g Fiber

1 1/2 cups pitted and coarsely chopped fresh sweet cherries
1/4 cup chopped onion
1 teaspoon chopped fresh sage
1/2 teaspoon each salt and chopped fresh thyme
4 boneless, skinless chicken breast halves (4 to 6 oz. each)
3 tablespoons olive oil
2 tablespoons white wine vinegar
1 1/2 teaspoons garlic salt
1/2 teaspoon coarsely ground pepper

Combine cherries, onion, sage, salt and thyme; mix well.
Cut a pocket on the thicker side of the chicken breast; sprinkle lightly with salt if desired. Stuff 1/4 of cherry mixture into the pocket; close opening with metal skewers or wooden picks.
Combine oil, vinegar, garlic salt and pepper; mix well. Marinate stuffed chicken breasts 1/2 hour in refrigerator.
Broil or grill chicken breasts, brushing with marinade, until fully cooked and juices run clear when sliced.
Oven Method: Brown stuffed chicken in oven-safe skillet on both sides. Bake at 375 degrees for 12 to 15 minutes or until juices run clear.

Makes 4 servings.
Calories 305, Fat 14 g, Carbs 11 g, Sodium 1130 mg, Fiber 1.1 g

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[Healthy_Recipes_For_Diabetic_Friends] Black Bean Brownies - 2g Carbs, 1g Fiber

 

Black Bean Brownies - 2g Carbs, 1g Fiber

From: The South Beach Diet (Phase 1)

A Healthy Brownie Recipe
What's not to love about chocolaty, rich-tasting brownies? This
delicious recipe uses a surprising ingredient — black beans — for
added moisture and fiber.

This healthy twist on a classic brownie recipe was suggested by a
devoted fan of the South Beach Diet. It substitutes fiber-rich black
beans and heart-healthy olive oil for the usual butter. When Dr. Arthur Agatston, creator of the South Beach Diet and a known chocolate lover,
sampled the brownies, he was surprised by how moist and delicious they
were and was delighted to learn that beans were the "secret ingredient."
You can serve the brownies hot from the pan or at room temperature.

Hands-on time: 5 minutes
Total time: 30 minutes
Makes: 36 (3 per serving)

1 (15.5oz can) black beans, drained and rinsed
4 large eggs
2 Tbsp extra-virgin olive oil
1 tsp vanilla extract
1 cup granular sugar substitute
3 Tbsp unsweetened cocoa powder, preferably dark
1 tsp baking powder
1/4 tsp salt
36 small pecan halves OR walnut pieces (about 1.5 oz)

Heat the oven to 350 degrees F. Lightly coat an 8" x 8" baking pan
with cooking spray.

In a blender or food processor, combine the beans, eggs, oil, vanilla,
sugar substitute, cocoa powder, baking powder, and salt. Process until
smooth.

Scrape the batter into the pan and arrange the nuts in even rows, 6 across
and 6 down. Bake for 25 to 30 minutes, until a toothpick inserted in the
center comes out clean. Cut into 36 squares with a nut piece in the center
of each.

Makes: 36 (3 per serving)
Nutrition per Brownie:
34 Calories, 2g Fat, 0.4g Sat, 1g Protein, 2g Carbs, 1g Fiber, 66mg Sodium

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