On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:37 AM, marty398 <marty398@yahoo.com> wrote:
Heather,
Your comments about gout are interesting. A friend just asked me if I had gout since one of my hands looked puffy. (He said that can be a symptom.) I assumed it was just the weight I had put back on.
You mentioned beer and fructose as potential causes. What about other alcohol? Isn't that processed in the liver much like fructose.
I guess I need to do some research about gout and dietary ways to control it. Thanks for the idea about this potential cause. If I learn anything that might help the group, I'll be sure to pass it on.
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Marty
Please do pass on anything you learn! I do appreciate everyone's "Experiments of one".
I don't know about ethanol itself. Beer is decidedly NOT good:
Beer is associated with fatness too, in society and also in some studies. For example,
the bones of monks from monasteries that brewed beer, showed that these monks
were fatter than the monks that made other products.
Wine isn't associated with fatness though, and the French aren't noted as being fat people either.
Also wine doesn't seem to trigger gout attacks:
BUT ... I think drinking alcohol in general can cause dehydration, which is something
you want to avoid.
I don't think ethanol is metabolized at all like fructose, and it certainly has a different
effect on the body. Ethanol gets metabolized into acetic acid eventually ...
aka vinegar.
Now vinegar has a reputation for getting rid of gout. In studies, it also is known
to help with weight loss, and blood pressure. So acetic acid might help with
uric acid. (Or, it might be the malic acid in ACV). Taking vinegar is probably
safer than drinking a lot of alcohol, and cheaper. I do know vinegar is good for
helping quench appetite.
"My wife started an intense internet search for natural remedy of gout. She found this site that talk about Gout Remedies. 59 out of 68 people who drink Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) were relieved from gout pain within a few days. "Two days of ACV was all it took for gout pain relief!" said a few testimonies."
I think Vitamin C is also a uric acid antagonist, but it should not be
taken with a meal containing meat or iron-enriched food (it causes the
iron to be over-absorbed, at least for some people). Citric acid may be
another antagonist:
Eating oranges does NOT cause uric acid levels to rise, even though
they have a fair bit of fructose. Eat your oranges! The peel has good stuff
in it too that may help with inflammation.
Anyway, it's a fun thing to experiment with and is unlikely to have negative
side effects. Science is just beginning to figure out what controls the
appestat, and why it goes SO haywire sometimes. If the answer turns out
to have to do with uric acid, that would be a great thing ... it's something that's
been studied for decades and fairly easy to fix. Dr. Richard Johnson did write
a book about this, with the unfortunate name "The Fat Switch" which gives a lot
of the science behind his thinking.
Interestingly, even though I had the "big toe bump" and joint pain, my uric
acid levels showed as normal on a blood test. I haven't had them re-tested,
but the bump is gone and my joints feel great.
Heather Twist -- Seattle 7B
http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
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