Heather,
  
  Your comments about gout are interesting.  A friend just asked me if I had gout since one of my hands looked puffy.  (He said that can be a symptom.) I assumed it was just the weight I had put back on.
  
  You mentioned beer and fructose as potential causes.  What about other alcohol?  Isn't that processed in the liver much like fructose.
  
  I guess I need to do some research about gout and dietary ways to control it.  Thanks for the idea about this potential cause.  If I learn anything that might help the group, I'll be sure to pass it on.
  
  --
  Marty
  
  --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Linda McErlean <linda4686401@...> wrote:
  >
  > I've fallen off too but have maintained my weight loss. That in itself is amazing. Trying to start over today. Fighting hunger. Trying herb tea to help stay on track. I know after a few days I will be ok. It does seem harder to start over though.
  > Linda
  > 
  > Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.
  > 
  > On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:37 AM, marty398 <marty398@...> wrote:
  > > I was on Fast-5 for a couple of years.  Dropped about 50 pounds and then gained about 8-10 back. I was stable during the last year I was on Fast-5.
  > > 
  > > But I've not been consistent for the last year or so.  I'm also about 20 lbs heavier.
  > > 
  > > Getting back onto Fast-5 seems harder than it was the first time.  Any hints?
  > > 
  > > --
  > > Marty
  > 
  > 
  > I've come to the conclusion (based on a lot of reading and experimenting)
  > that appetite is controlled largely by uric acid. Uric acid controls the "hibernation"
  > cycle. When uric acid levels go up in bears, they get more hungry and eat more
  > and gain fat. Uric acid also causes the fat to STAY. I think Fast-5 lowers
  > uric acid levels in the long run, which is one reason it works. BUT ... at the
  > first part of fasting, uric acid levels go UP.
  > 
  > So, what can you do about it? Mainly if you eat foods that control uric
  > acid levels (by my theory).
  > 
  > Some foods lower uric acid levels, by causing it to be excreted. Protein
  > does that, as long as the source isn't high in purines. So eggs and fish
  > work rather nicely. Eggs are basically magic for appetite.
  > 
  > Some foods tend to raise uric acid levels. The big one is fructose ... which
  > is half of a sugar molecule. Sugar, honey, molasses, coconut sugar,
  > palm sugar, HFCS etc. are ALL high in fructose. Fruit juice too.
  > 
  > Most Karo corn syrup though, oddly, does not have much fructose. 
  > Or rice syrup, or dextrose. Or starches, like rice. Those are neutral foods.
  > Whole fruit, for some reason, does not seem to raise uric acid levels.
  > 
  > Some other things that raise uric acid levels:
  > 
  > Beer
  > High iron foods ("fortified" starches: most starchy foods in the US have added iron)
  > Saturated fat (yes, even coconut oil!)
  > Organ meats
  > Not drinking enough water
  > Not eating on a schedule
  > 
  > Anyway, when I have beer, I get "the hungries" all the next day. 
  > 
  > I looked into this when I started getting gout symptoms ... that big
  > lump by the big toe and joint pain. My Dad had it too, but he managed
  > it with diet. And, then he got skinny, though he wasn't restricting food.
  > 
  > When they gave fat kids some gout medicine, the fat kids lost weight.
  > 
  > My toe lump did go away when I started doing the stuff above, and then
  > I lost like 30 lbs. Note that I'm not trying to make a general case against 
  > saturated fats or organ meats, or beer! I do like beer. I like my joints
  > being happy too though.
  > 
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > 
  > -- 
  > Heather Twist -- Seattle 7B
  > http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
  >
  
  
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