Re: [fast5] Re: Need some advice too

i purchased the miracle noodles, which are konjac. they ended up giving me a stomach ache, and then they came out the other end, totally undigested!

now i have ten more packs that have been languishing in my fridge for months. i wonder why my body reacted that way? i've read reviews from others who had the same reaction, and others who digested it just fine. come to think of it, i have problems with most veggies. i bloat until i look five months pregnant, and pass lots of gass the next morning. maybe i need some kind of digestive aid? i read hcl pepsin was just for protein, so i would need something else??

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. It's good to see what works for other people.

Konjac is a fiber ... if your doc is right, and fiber is what is making you feel full, then konjac would make it worse I think.

The thing about "fullness" though is that both fullness and hunger are kind of hormonal illusions your body creates. No one really knows what all controls them and part of the point of intermittent fasting is that it seems to change how those hunger-hormones are activated.

One thing fiber does though, is get digested by microbes into butyrate, after some 12 hours or so. Butyrate is *food* for your lower gut, and has some really good and interesting side-effects in the body, but perhaps it is kicking in for you the next morning? You could experiment with less fiber and see what happens. If that over-full feeling is a bad one for you.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:35 AM, gremlinpugs <gremlinpugs@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Heather and Group

Well I have done several things here.

1. Can't find any real issues health wise for the feeling of fullness.
2. I have been trying the Konjac recommended.

Well, the konjac doesn't appear to work for me. If anything, I have started to gain weight back. Also, no difference with the full feeling.

I just started last week to try and adjust my window backwards a bit. Right now -- due to my work schedule -- I had a window that opened at 6:30pm when I got home. I changed it so that it opens at 3:30. I just make sure I have all my meals prepared in advance, so I can heat and eat when I get home.

On another note, my Doctor thinks that my diet is rich in fiber and because I drink at least 32 to 64 oz of water with my meal, this is what is causing the feeling of fullness in the morning. Not sure I buy that since I sometimes go to bed feeling hungry because I know in the morning I will feel full.

Oh well. Again, thanks for all the suggestions and advise.

Jennifer Lupo, D.M.

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations on your progress! Your diet does sound very good.
>
> As for an overfull feeling the next morning ... could be lots of things. I
> was having
> stomach issues for some time and it turned out to be ulcers! Sheesh. So
> just theorizing, here are some possibilities:
>
> 1. Digestion issues. If your stomach doesn't feel good, sometimes that
> comes across as hunger, sometimes as feeling over-full. Stomach issues
> can include ulcers (drinking tea on an empty stomach did it to me: I still
> drink tea, but only with food), food intolerance (wheat, dairy, soy, corn
> are
> the usual culprits), lack of ability to digest fats (gall bladder issues).
>
> 2. Hormonal issues: Hormones can do it. Being pregnant (or your body
> THINKING it is pregnant) can do it.
>
>
> The fact that a number of foods make you sick kind of suggests to me
> that your digestion isn't working well. The thing that helped me with that
> was konjac ... the powder is kind of expensive but a pound of it lasts
> a LONG time. Take 1/4 tsp. with some water (do NOT try to eat it dry:
> it sticks to your mouth!), with your main food. You can also buy it in
> pill form, PGX. I have not found it to be an appetite suppressant, as
> they claim, but it does help digestion a lot.
>
> What this does is it "stretches out" digestion, so your body enzymes
> have more time to work on the food. Konjac also seems to prevent
> or cure ulcers. It's been used in Asian cuisine for 1,000 years or so.
>
> I also was having an issue with GERD, and what helped with that was
> d-limonene. You can also just eat a bit of orange peel, which is where
> limonene comes from. I started using lime juice more in my cooking
> (and on salads) and using a slice of organic lime in hot or cold water.
>
> For awhile I was also taking HCL tablets with meals. I think my
> stomach just didn't have enough acid in it. I did that for a year or
> so, but then for some reason my own HCL kicked in again and I
> didn't need it. With HCL, you keep taking a bit more and more until
> you get heartburn, then scale it back. If you don't have enough HCL,
> then you can't digest protein well at all.
>
> Sometimes eating ginger with meals helps a lot. Vinegar too: it's
> a natural on salads anyway.
>
> Anyway, experiment! When you find what works, let the rest of
> us know for future reference!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, gremlinpugs <gremlinpugs@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I have been doing fast5 for almost 2 years now. It has been terrific for
> > me in a lot of ways. I am not focused on the actual number of my weight or
> > even the inches, just getting healthy and this seems to be working for the
> > most part.
> >
> > I was working with a traditional nutritionist and dietician, I did
> > everything they told me including the food journal. They couldn't figure
> > out why I would gain weight and was very sick to my stomach from feeling
> > over full all the time.
> >
> > At any rate, when I found fast5 a lot of my issues changed and I lost 75
> > lbs. Unfortunately, do to personal issues causing way too much stress I
> > started gaining back some of that weight. Luckily no inches with it, so
> > that is why I don't even look at the numbers anymore.
> >
> > Well getting (finally) to my issue. Over the last 4 months or so, I have
> > noticed that over full feeling coming back in the mornings. My window is
> > 6:30pm to 11:30pm because of my job monday to friday. Saturday and Sunday I
> > generally eat earlier. I also don't use the full 5 hours as I don't need
> > to. Much like Heather suggested, I do spread my meal out.
> > I start with a nice salad of dark leafy greens mixed with almonds or pine
> > nuts and mixed with fresh berries (like blueberries or strawberries). After
> > I have my salad, I put together and cook my main meal. Now, I don't like
> > meat at all especially red meat. So my main meal consists of things like
> > fish (not shell fish), beans, quinoa, and stuff like that. After I have
> > eaten and cleaned everything up, if I am still hungry (which almost never
> > happens anymore), I tend to drink some herbal tea or water. I do drink lots
> > of water.
> >
> > Foods I cannot eat cause they either make me sick or I just don't like
> > them at all include meats, cheeses, some veggies when cooked like spinach
> > (can eat that raw, but not cooked), peanuts, milk, eggs, and foods like
> > these.
> >
> > I have been tested for all kinds of issues like my thyroid. But I come out
> > healthy if over weight (obese by medical standards -- I am 5ft 3in and 199
> > lbs). My personal trainer doesn't think I am obese or over weight, I just
> > have a lot of toning to do. :) :0)
> >
> > At any rate, I am trying to figure out how I am feeling so sick in the
> > morning and like I ate 5 times as much food as I really did. My total
> > calories from what I eat generally is between 800 and 1000. Some of my
> > doctors say I am not eating enough. But I am NOT hungry and if I eat more,
> > I get that over full feeling and sick to my stomach.
> >
> > Can anyone help? Give me some advise? I just don't want to feel sick or
> > stuffed anymore. I feel fine after I have eaten, but not the next morning.
> > :(
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Jennifer Lupo, D.M.
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Heather Twist
> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
>

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