Re: [fast5] Re: Sleepy after eating

Sunday, July 25, 2010

Re: [fast5] Re: Sleepy after eating

I'd point out that Stefansson, and the Inuit, didn't eat "all meat". It was largely fish, which is a different thing. In a couple of respects:

1. The Inuit (and most non-farming cultures) tend to eat small fish, whole. This means they also eat the stomach contents (algae, seaweed, etc) and the bones. This provides calcium and vitamins. Modern Americans, when they eat "all meat" mainly eat beef or chicken muscle meat, which is lacking in green anything and also lacking in calcium.

2. The Neanderthals, who also are said to eat a "mostly meat" diet, ate a lot of seafood also. Plus stuff like insects and snails. Again, this tends to include the stomach contents and bones.

3. Modern "low carb" people tend to eat cheese and milk and eggs, which are more or less whole foods also.

I do know you can raise healthy rats off nothing but eggs, and some humans live off mostly milk. I think you can live off whole fish too.

"In the morning, about seven o'clock, winter-caught fish, frozen so hard that they would break like glass, were brought in to lie on the floor till they began to soften a little. One of the women would pinch them every now and then until, when she found her finger indented them slightly, she would begin preparations for breakfast. First she cut off the head and put them aside to be boiled for the children in the afternoon (Eskimos are fond of children, and heads are considered the best part of the fish). Next best are the tails, which are cut off and saved for the children also. The woman would then slit the skin along the back and also along the belly and getting hold with her teeth, would strip the fish somewhat as we peel a banana, only sideways where we peel bananas, endways."

BTW in the 1800's and early 1900's, English people ate whole little birds too. The nutritional value of a whole sparrow or blackbird is just not the same as that of a chicken thigh.

Anyway, this is just to say that the whole issue is more nuanced than just carb content. I'm not sure what the "ideal human diet" is either, but it's unlikely to be "pure meat" in the sense of animal muscle: there are too many known dietary factors lacking.

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:17 AM, barnabywalker <barnabywalker@gmail.com> wrote:

Eating plenty of animal fat along with the meat.

Stefansson lived with the Eskimos several years.

Adventures in Diet, 3 Parts:
"Eskimos Prove An All Meat Diet Provides Excellent Health"

http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm

Barnaby

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "tamaratornado" <tamaratornado@...> wrote:
>
> How long have you eaten meat only? I could see doing it temporarily, but it would scare me to eat only meat long term.... I know I've read about Eskimos eating only meat and fish and being healthy, but still, it seems extreme....
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Rebecca Cason <yellowcason@> wrote:
> >
> > And I might add it is not lean meat..i stay away from lean and eat fatty
> > meats.
> > Rebecca
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Rebecca Cason <yellowcason@>wrote:
> >
> > > Right. just meat only...never vegetables.
> > > Rebecca
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, tamaratornado <tamaratornado@>wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What is a zero carb diet then, just meat only?
> > >> You never eat vegetables?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <fast5%40yahoogroups.com>, Rebecca Cason
> > >> <yellowcason@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > all veggies are carbs - even the low starch ones...i dont eat them
> > >> becasue
> > >> > even after "low carb" veggies I get sleepy too. Zero carb does not make
> > >> me
> > >> > sleepy anymore. Initially zero carb DID make me sleepy (but only for a
> > >> few
> > >> > days) because my body was pumping out insulin in anticipation of the veg
> > >> and
> > >> > sugar it thought I was going to have. After it learned it wasnt going to
> > >> get
> > >> > any that symptom went away.
> > >> > Just my story.
> > >> > Rebecca
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:37 AM, tamaratornado <tamaratornado@
> > >> ...>wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I sometimes feel sleepy after eating. I thought it meant that I was
> > >> > > hypoglycemic. I notice though that I get sleepy after eating a no carb
> > >> meal
> > >> > > of meat and veggies, which doesn't make sense that way.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I am thinking to push my eating window back to just before bedtime. I
> > >> ate
> > >> > > at 5 pm yesterday and was sleepy til about 9:30 or 10, then I started
> > >> to
> > >> > > wake up. Maybe I should eat around 9 pm, I would get sleepy for my
> > >> bedtime,
> > >> > > that would be nice.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > One of my friends noticed he was sleepy after eating meat, and he went
> > >> > > vegetarian because of it. I didn't agree with going vegetarian, but I
> > >> don't
> > >> > > have a solution for him either.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > - T
> > >> > --
> > >> > Rebecca Cason

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