Re: [fast5] Re: brown fat verses yellow fat

Even if you're not calorie restricting the fasting is still helpful in training your body to burn fat as fuel.

I've shared here before but for the sake of updating:

Back around 2000 I weighed in at approximately 425+ pounds. I'm a 6'4" single daddy, just turned 43 last month. Currently I weigh in at 220-225, and I've put on approximately 20 pounds of muscle since 2006 when I started lifting. I probably have about 20 pounds of excess bodyfat to lose, but I've never had any surgery, and other than over-the-counter supplements I haven't used any weird diet pills - I just have trained regularly and studied about ways that the body uses energy.

From a wheat / grain standpoint, I've never had any problem with it. Your body will essentially process refined flour like it's sugar, but in my experience it hasn't been the carbs vs. fat argument, it's more a matter of "what are you asking your body to do?" The Fast5 plan is helpful because obviously, given my former size, I have lived a life of food-regulation issues, but I do believe my body's insulin response has become a lot more efficient than it was as a "big guy."

I will tell you from experience that sure -- moving away from grains has benefits, but most people don't need to vilify them. The problem is just that they're harder to regulate from a dietary standpoint. I lost my first 80 pounds or so doing strictly Atkins, and I know that if I ate grain/carbs during the day I'd have much more of a struggle losing fat. Eating only in the evening most days (probably 28-31 days a month) means that my insulin spikes only once a day, and when you've put your muscles into a "repair/grow" mode through some challenging and consistent strength training, you give the carbs something to do other than keep you alive. Anyone out there who is not exercising regularly (and strongly), I'd definitely recommend avoiding flour and sugar altogether if you want to see real results.

I would recommend to anyone doing fast5 to a) talk to their doctor and start a consistent exercise program that involves weight training, and b) worry less about the scale and more about your visible body fat. If you lost twenty pounds of fat and put on five-ten pounds of muscle, you're going to like the way you look and feel, and you'll want to keep getting healthy.

From: barnabywalker <barnabywalker@gmail.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 8:21:13 PM
Subject: [fast5] Re: brown fat verses yellow fat

It's not at all unusual to see conflicting "studies" regarding low-fat diets and disease.

Eating less fat offers little disease protection
Study: Low-fat diet fails to decrease cancer, heart risks in older women
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11221022/

Calorie reduction diets are showing the best promise for improved health. But Fasting is the most sane way of accomplishing it. No sense in Starving yourself! It's not as difficult to eat less than 1500 calories a day (for calorie restricted diet) if you don't spread it over Traditional 3 meals a day.
http://www.aces.edu/dept/extcomm/health/july9c02.html

I agree, Wheat serves no good purpose in our diet, but not from fear of iron.

"Iron Man" :-)
Barnaby

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> Well, not to go onto my current bandwagon or anything, but high iron levels
> are associated with cancer. IP6 and EDTA are being used by some people to
> help treat cancer, because it mops up the extra iron in the blood, stealing
> food from the cancer cells. Most cancers are rare in India, where they also
> tend to have very low ferritin levels. So the first thing I would do is have
> your ferritin levels checked. See:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2025170/
>
> Second thing is: people who are gluten intolerant often have high prolactin
> levels (even little kids, which doesn't make sense because prolactin is
> there for breastfeeding!). Prolactin is also associated with breast cancer.
>
> I kind of think the gluten thing might be related to the iron thing: gluten
> messes with the gut integrity, which might lead to high ferritin levels? Or
> some kind of rebound reaction: I had undetected celiac for years, which
> probably made me anemic, but when I stopped eating wheat then I started
> having iron problems.
>
> Personally I don't think fat per se has anything to do with breast cancer.
> It's probably a stand-in statistically for either red meat (which is both
> high in iron and also makes other iron in the diet absorb better) or trans
> fats. Other kinds of fats ... coconut oil, olive oil, fish oil ... don't
> seem to promote cancer? Only the fats that are associated with the high iron
> foods? When I eat red meat these days I also take a calcium pill, which I
> think is necessary to make the protein digest correctly and also to block
> the iron. Most animals that eat meat also eat the bones, as did human beings
> in the past. The paleo peoples didn't have a problem eating scads of meat
> probably because they did eat bones, and also they had parasites and lost
> blood more regularly.
>
> Kraut and cabbage are associated with lower breast cancer rates. If you like
> them, it's an easy thing to eat! I do like homemade kraut.
>
> If you want brown fat though, the thing to do is to "get cold". When people
> have to live in a cold environment, they develop brown fat and a higher
> metabolism. So maybe gardening during the winter, in shirtsleeves? I had my
> best health at a time when I had to walk a mile each day, rain or shine,
> including in snow and ice.
>
> Breast cancer isn't something I've studied though, and I'm sure you'll do
> your own research. I'm sorry to hear about it, though I'm glad you are being
> proactive! I think Fast-5 is a good treatment of itself, because it helps
> the body do "housecleaning".
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:35 AM, lanekoeslin <koeslin@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I wonder if anyone on this list has studied the brown/yellow fat factor and
> > applied it to Fast-5.
> >
> > A little about me: I was a skinny kid. Gained a few pounds after each
> > baby. Gained a chunk very quickly while going through some mental anquish.
> > And then began the diet rollercoaster. One diet after another ending with
> > an 8 year stint on Atkins Extreme. Quit that about 5 years ago, because my
> > doctor was concerned over bloodwork results.
> >
> > Four months ago I had a mastectomy due to early stage but invasive breast
> > cancer. 3 months ago I started
> > taking Arimidex to block estrogen. One of the breast cancer risks is high
> > fat intake, according to the literature.
> >
> > That brings me to my interest in the brown fat, yellow fat factor. From
> > what little I've read on the subject, some types of exercise promote the
> > healthy brown fat which burns off the yellow fat as I understand it.
> >
> > Does anyone on this list, Heather perhaps?, have insight or knowledge
> > about this? Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Lane in Illinois
> >