I’ll throw my two cents in as well, adding that I agree with Rick on this issue. All soy is now genetically modified. You may find organic soy but no matter what it says, it is genetically modified and I for one do not feel like being a human guinea pig when it comes to this. I’m just certain that a couple decades down the road they’re going to find out the ramifications of all these GMO foods. You can’t mess with mother nature. I keep five chickens that I feed organic soy-free food to during the winter and pasture in a very small garden planted with chicken forage the rest of the year. They keep me amused and in ready supply of great eggs. I add flax to their food for the omega-3 enhancement of their eggs.
Kim
From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RickS
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:14 PM
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fast5] Re: No loss; extending my fasting window
Hi Aeryelle-
I really believe in not proselytizing about diets, religion, or politics. All I can do is give you my opinion since I guess that's what we're here for. I tried vegetarianism for several years so I get where you're coming from, and I respect that. And I totally get all the effort you're putting in at the gym/dojo/monastery. :) You're definitely not lacking in enthusiasm.
Off the top of my head, you're right. Exercise doesn't really help as weight gain is a hormone issue, not related to calories in/out. Exercise is wonderful for many other reasons, but it just ends up making you hungry and you want to eat more.
Are you on any medications? Many pharmaceuticals can cause weight gain or inhibit weight loss.
And finally, soy. There is much research that contradicts the popular notion that soy is healthy. Soy is far from healthy and should not be eaten. Here is just one link to a site that sort of sums up why soy may be bad for the thyroid (which controls your metabolism):
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm
From the article...
"...there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans. Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."
I think replacing soy with cage free, organic, eggs would be a compromise that you could live with for the sake of your own health. No animals have to die and if you get your eggs from a local cage free farmer, you'll be supporting your local economy and ensuring that your food comes from humane conditions.
I realized 10 years ago during my vegetarian phase that we really are carnivores and we've evolved over millions of years to eat that way. Herbivores have jaws that grind from side to side, they have huge four chambered stomachs, and even chimps and gorillas have really long intestines to convert fibrous vegetable material into triglycerides and fatty acids. Our intestines aren't long enough to convert enough fiber to fatty acids so we really need to get fat from our diet.
Anyway, I hope that's somewhat helpful to you and has given you enough information to Google to last you all weekend. :)
-Rick
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "aeryelle" <aeryelle@...> wrote:
>
> I posted typical menu, but I just noticed it ended up being in response to Rick's comment, so it's there if you want to take a peek.
>
> And, NO.
> Exercise is not helping me at all.
> My typical schedule is:
> 60 mins of cardio 2-3x/week
> 30 mins of cardio 1x/week
> 30-60 mins of pilates 1x/week)
> 60 mins of pretty vigorous yoga 5x/week
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Barnaby Walker" <barnabywalker@> wrote:
> >
> > You're NOT eating enough.
> >
> > Eat PLENTY of Fat and Protein.
> >
> > You have to break the mindset which has brainwashed you to think that Calories are important. As we've said in earlier postings regarding Taubes, Groves, Eades, it's INSULIN. And grains convert into high blood sugar and the body's reaction to higher Insulin levels is storage of body fat. Strike Starches and Grains from your diet. beans seem to be an exception.
> >
> > What is a typical day's menu?
> > Not the calorie counts, the specific TYPE of foods.
> > Exercise not helping you at all.
> >
> > Barnaby
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "aeryelle" <aeryelle@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I'm basically 4 weeks in (tomorrow will be day 28), and I'm NOT noticing my jeans getting any looser :-(
> > > I'm going to extend my fasting window today until after 8pm, when I get out of yoga. I still plan on closing it by 10pm. Perhaps that will give me a kick in the right direction?
> > >
> > > I've been sticking strictly to a 5 hour eating window (it's usually less, unless I have tea with a bit of unsweetened almond milk). I only consume water and a cup or two of black decaf coffee during my fasting hours. I've been watching carbs, as I always do.
> > > That being said, I don't intend on stopping Fast-5/IF. I feel great. I have tons of energy (I actually feel better exercising fasted!); I'm sleeping better; my skin is clearer; and I'm SO in touch with my natural hunger. It's amazing!
> > >
> > > I've now noticed a marked decrease in appetite/hunger, and I easily make it through the fasting window. I've been feeling some mild hunger pangs upon waking, but they soon subside. I'm rarely even hungry now when my window opens at 5pm.
> > >
> > > I'm just not noticing any fat-loss, and that was the primary reason, I embarked on this way of eating (or not eating). Perhaps, I'm being impatient, but shouldn't I have noticed something - even small - by now??
> > > Does anyone have any experience/insight into possible undereating/overtraining? I've read all over the place that undereating can cause your body to not want to let go of fat stores. Is this true?
> > > My calories were pretty darn low, by most standards, before I started Fast-5. I've been keeping track, just to gauge my consumption, and I'm hitting between around 900-1000 calories a day; sometimes I can make it to 1200, if I have some extra nuts. This equates to not much of a deficit compared to my pre-Fast-5 intake (more like at or barely below).
> > > (I'm 5'3" and weigh around 135-136 lbs. I want to lose about 16 lbs of fat.)
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>
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