Although, I agree that most soy is genetically modified. However, there is an organization that does third party testing and certification of products.
http://www.nongmoproject.org/
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Swearingen" <kim@...> wrote:
>
> I'll throw my two cents in as well, adding that I agree with Rick on this
> issue. All soy is now genetically modified. You may find organic soy but
> no matter what it says, it is genetically modified and I for one do not feel
> like being a human guinea pig when it comes to this. I'm just certain that
> a couple decades down the road they're going to find out the ramifications
> of all these GMO foods. You can't mess with mother nature. I keep five
> chickens that I feed organic soy-free food to during the winter and pasture
> in a very small garden planted with chicken forage the rest of the year.
> They keep me amused and in ready supply of great eggs. I add flax to their
> food for the omega-3 enhancement of their eggs.
>
>
>
> Kim
>
>
>
> From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> RickS
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:14 PM
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fast5] Re: No loss; extending my fasting window
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Aeryelle-
>
> I really believe in not proselytizing about diets, religion, or politics.
> All I can do is give you my opinion since I guess that's what we're here
> for. I tried vegetarianism for several years so I get where you're coming
> from, and I respect that. And I totally get all the effort you're putting in
> at the gym/dojo/monastery. :) You're definitely not lacking in enthusiasm.
>
> Off the top of my head, you're right. Exercise doesn't really help as weight
> gain is a hormone issue, not related to calories in/out. Exercise is
> wonderful for many other reasons, but it just ends up making you hungry and
> you want to eat more.
>
> Are you on any medications? Many pharmaceuticals can cause weight gain or
> inhibit weight loss.
>
> And finally, soy. There is much research that contradicts the popular notion
> that soy is healthy. Soy is far from healthy and should not be eaten. Here
> is just one link to a site that sort of sums up why soy may be bad for the
> thyroid (which controls your metabolism):
>
> http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm
>
> From the article...
>
> "...there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy,
> including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity
> in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number
> of species, including humans. Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of
> the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to
> generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis.
> There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic
> and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are
> significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human
> infants and adults."
>
> I think replacing soy with cage free, organic, eggs would be a compromise
> that you could live with for the sake of your own health. No animals have to
> die and if you get your eggs from a local cage free farmer, you'll be
> supporting your local economy and ensuring that your food comes from humane
> conditions.
>
> I realized 10 years ago during my vegetarian phase that we really are
> carnivores and we've evolved over millions of years to eat that way.
> Herbivores have jaws that grind from side to side, they have huge four
> chambered stomachs, and even chimps and gorillas have really long intestines
> to convert fibrous vegetable material into triglycerides and fatty acids.
> Our intestines aren't long enough to convert enough fiber to fatty acids so
> we really need to get fat from our diet.
>
> Anyway, I hope that's somewhat helpful to you and has given you enough
> information to Google to last you all weekend. :)
>
> -Rick
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "aeryelle"
> <aeryelle@> wrote:
> >
> > I posted typical menu, but I just noticed it ended up being in response to
> Rick's comment, so it's there if you want to take a peek.
> >
> > And, NO.
> > Exercise is not helping me at all.
> > My typical schedule is:
> > 60 mins of cardio 2-3x/week
> > 30 mins of cardio 1x/week
> > 30-60 mins of pilates 1x/week)
> > 60 mins of pretty vigorous yoga 5x/week
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "Barnaby
> Walker" <barnabywalker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You're NOT eating enough.
> > >
> > > Eat PLENTY of Fat and Protein.
> > >
> > > You have to break the mindset which has brainwashed you to think that
> Calories are important. As we've said in earlier postings regarding Taubes,
> Groves, Eades, it's INSULIN. And grains convert into high blood sugar and
> the body's reaction to higher Insulin levels is storage of body fat. Strike
> Starches and Grains from your diet. beans seem to be an exception.
> > >
> > > What is a typical day's menu?
> > > Not the calorie counts, the specific TYPE of foods.
> > > Exercise not helping you at all.
> > >
> > > Barnaby
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "aeryelle" <aeryelle@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm basically 4 weeks in (tomorrow will be day 28), and I'm NOT
> noticing my jeans getting any looser :-(
> > > > I'm going to extend my fasting window today until after 8pm, when I
> get out of yoga. I still plan on closing it by 10pm. Perhaps that will give
> me a kick in the right direction?
> > > >
> > > > I've been sticking strictly to a 5 hour eating window (it's usually
> less, unless I have tea with a bit of unsweetened almond milk). I only
> consume water and a cup or two of black decaf coffee during my fasting
> hours. I've been watching carbs, as I always do.
> > > > That being said, I don't intend on stopping Fast-5/IF. I feel great. I
> have tons of energy (I actually feel better exercising fasted!); I'm
> sleeping better; my skin is clearer; and I'm SO in touch with my natural
> hunger. It's amazing!
> > > >
> > > > I've now noticed a marked decrease in appetite/hunger, and I easily
> make it through the fasting window. I've been feeling some mild hunger pangs
> upon waking, but they soon subside. I'm rarely even hungry now when my
> window opens at 5pm.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just not noticing any fat-loss, and that was the primary reason, I
> embarked on this way of eating (or not eating). Perhaps, I'm being
> impatient, but shouldn't I have noticed something - even small - by now??
> > > > Does anyone have any experience/insight into possible
> undereating/overtraining? I've read all over the place that undereating can
> cause your body to not want to let go of fat stores. Is this true?
> > > > My calories were pretty darn low, by most standards, before I started
> Fast-5. I've been keeping track, just to gauge my consumption, and I'm
> hitting between around 900-1000 calories a day; sometimes I can make it to
> 1200, if I have some extra nuts. This equates to not much of a deficit
> compared to my pre-Fast-5 intake (more like at or barely below).
> > > > (I'm 5'3" and weigh around 135-136 lbs. I want to lose about 16 lbs of
> fat.)
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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