[fast5] Re: No loss; extending my fasting window

hi,
ditch the almond milk-full of sugar, starches and carbs. Most almound, rice, hemp and soy "milks" are full of, well, crap.

the best thing to add to your diet is either raw unpasturized cream (zero carbs) or coconut milk.

I would also recommend reducing your excercise quite a bit-it isn't helping you loose weight or build muscle. Weight lifting is the best way to reshape the body and finding someone who can use a Takata (?) type interval training with your would work well for you. All you need is about 30 minutes every other day. The amount of excercies increases the appetite by a tremendous amount.

Vegan/Vegetarianism is not good for the bodies of humans. In a nutshell, scientfic proof that it is an optimum diet and no anecdotal proof that it is the optimal human diet.

There has never been a non-meat, non-dairy, non-fish, non-insect eating civilization; a civilization where only vegetable matter was consumed by every citizen-ever. Why? We (humans)can't breed well on such a diet.We go extinct.

So some reading. Get educated. Then you decide. The Weston Price Foundation is a good place to start. As is Mercola.

AM
www.justaskami.com

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Swearingen" <kim@...> wrote:
>
> I'll throw my two cents in as well, adding that I agree with Rick on this
> issue. All soy is now genetically modified. You may find organic soy but
> no matter what it says, it is genetically modified and I for one do not feel
> like being a human guinea pig when it comes to this. I'm just certain that
> a couple decades down the road they're going to find out the ramifications
> of all these GMO foods. You can't mess with mother nature. I keep five
> chickens that I feed organic soy-free food to during the winter and pasture
> in a very small garden planted with chicken forage the rest of the year.
> They keep me amused and in ready supply of great eggs. I add flax to their
> food for the omega-3 enhancement of their eggs.
>
>
>
> Kim
>
>
>
> From: fast5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fast5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> RickS
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:14 PM
> To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fast5] Re: No loss; extending my fasting window
>
>
>
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>
> Hi Aeryelle-
>
> I really believe in not proselytizing about diets, religion, or politics.
> All I can do is give you my opinion since I guess that's what we're here
> for. I tried vegetarianism for several years so I get where you're coming
> from, and I respect that. And I totally get all the effort you're putting in
> at the gym/dojo/monastery. :) You're definitely not lacking in enthusiasm.
>
> Off the top of my head, you're right. Exercise doesn't really help as weight
> gain is a hormone issue, not related to calories in/out. Exercise is
> wonderful for many other reasons, but it just ends up making you hungry and
> you want to eat more.
>
> Are you on any medications? Many pharmaceuticals can cause weight gain or
> inhibit weight loss.
>
> And finally, soy. There is much research that contradicts the popular notion
> that soy is healthy. Soy is far from healthy and should not be eaten. Here
> is just one link to a site that sort of sums up why soy may be bad for the
> thyroid (which controls your metabolism):
>
> http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm
>
> From the article...
>
> "...there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy,
> including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity
> in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number
> of species, including humans. Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of
> the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to
> generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis.
> There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic
> and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are
> significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human
> infants and adults."
>
> I think replacing soy with cage free, organic, eggs would be a compromise
> that you could live with for the sake of your own health. No animals have to
> die and if you get your eggs from a local cage free farmer, you'll be
> supporting your local economy and ensuring that your food comes from humane
> conditions.
>
> I realized 10 years ago during my vegetarian phase that we really are
> carnivores and we've evolved over millions of years to eat that way.
> Herbivores have jaws that grind from side to side, they have huge four
> chambered stomachs, and even chimps and gorillas have really long intestines
> to convert fibrous vegetable material into triglycerides and fatty acids.
> Our intestines aren't long enough to convert enough fiber to fatty acids so
> we really need to get fat from our diet.
>
> Anyway, I hope that's somewhat helpful to you and has given you enough
> information to Google to last you all weekend. :)
>
> -Rick
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "aeryelle"
> <aeryelle@> wrote:
> >
> > I posted typical menu, but I just noticed it ended up being in response to
> Rick's comment, so it's there if you want to take a peek.
> >
> > And, NO.
> > Exercise is not helping me at all.
> > My typical schedule is:
> > 60 mins of cardio 2-3x/week
> > 30 mins of cardio 1x/week
> > 30-60 mins of pilates 1x/week)
> > 60 mins of pretty vigorous yoga 5x/week
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> , "Barnaby
> Walker" <barnabywalker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You're NOT eating enough.
> > >
> > > Eat PLENTY of Fat and Protein.
> > >
> > > You have to break the mindset which has brainwashed you to think that
> Calories are important. As we've said in earlier postings regarding Taubes,
> Groves, Eades, it's INSULIN. And grains convert into high blood sugar and
> the body's reaction to higher Insulin levels is storage of body fat. Strike
> Starches and Grains from your diet. beans seem to be an exception.
> > >
> > > What is a typical day's menu?
> > > Not the calorie counts, the specific TYPE of foods.
> > > Exercise not helping you at all.
> > >
> > > Barnaby
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com <mailto:fast5%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "aeryelle" <aeryelle@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm basically 4 weeks in (tomorrow will be day 28), and I'm NOT
> noticing my jeans getting any looser :-(
> > > > I'm going to extend my fasting window today until after 8pm, when I
> get out of yoga. I still plan on closing it by 10pm. Perhaps that will give
> me a kick in the right direction?
> > > >
> > > > I've been sticking strictly to a 5 hour eating window (it's usually
> less, unless I have tea with a bit of unsweetened almond milk). I only
> consume water and a cup or two of black decaf coffee during my fasting
> hours. I've been watching carbs, as I always do.
> > > > That being said, I don't intend on stopping Fast-5/IF. I feel great. I
> have tons of energy (I actually feel better exercising fasted!); I'm
> sleeping better; my skin is clearer; and I'm SO in touch with my natural
> hunger. It's amazing!
> > > >
> > > > I've now noticed a marked decrease in appetite/hunger, and I easily
> make it through the fasting window. I've been feeling some mild hunger pangs
> upon waking, but they soon subside. I'm rarely even hungry now when my
> window opens at 5pm.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just not noticing any fat-loss, and that was the primary reason, I
> embarked on this way of eating (or not eating). Perhaps, I'm being
> impatient, but shouldn't I have noticed something - even small - by now??
> > > > Does anyone have any experience/insight into possible
> undereating/overtraining? I've read all over the place that undereating can
> cause your body to not want to let go of fat stores. Is this true?
> > > > My calories were pretty darn low, by most standards, before I started
> Fast-5. I've been keeping track, just to gauge my consumption, and I'm
> hitting between around 900-1000 calories a day; sometimes I can make it to
> 1200, if I have some extra nuts. This equates to not much of a deficit
> compared to my pre-Fast-5 intake (more like at or barely below).
> > > > (I'm 5'3" and weigh around 135-136 lbs. I want to lose about 16 lbs of
> fat.)
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>