Thursday, March 31, 2011

[epilepsy] Re: three years

 

Hi Kelly,

You have told me your situation with seizures before but I forgot.

The reson I asked you about changes from surgery is because I
Ve been affected allot in the same ways you have. My IQ didn'd change. Actually I took neuropsycological evaluations both before and after surgery. The tests show no change. BUT, I've notice major changes like you and it's changed in many of the same ways your surgery affected you. I've been able to accept the fact that my cognitive abilities aren't the same but it's been very hard in some ways to get others to understand how hard it's been. But, no question about it, I'm seizure free so how can I complain? I'm so very lucky I know and understand how many others would jump at being where I'm at. It helps me allot understanding it's not only me who's cognitive abilities worsened from surgery. Though I dread it on anybody. But still, being seizure free, how can I complain? Take care, keep a smile on your face.

Steve

--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Kelly Porter <kellyporter@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I am not actually seizure free. I have about 2 a month, but compared to
> multiple seizures a day, I'll take it!
>
> As far as changes, I know I lost at least 14 IQ points. My short term
> memory is definitely affected. It took me over 2 years to adjust to the
> emotional side effects of having my amigdula removed, I now know what I
> can and cannot handle, and what situations to avoid or walk away from.
> Some people get upset at me because I walk away, but I knwo fi I don't I
> can get really mad. I also have pretty bad concentration issues. I get
> distracted really easy, put that with short term memory issues and it's
> a yucky combination. I have to make notes and lists for everything. My
> computer and Droid help me keep track of things. I have also developed
> light sensitivity issues, so I have to wear tinted glasses all of the time.
>
> Put the concentration issues and short term memory together, and I have
> decided I won't drive again even if I do become seizure free. I know
> that my distraction issues would make me unsafe! I am also still on
> Trileptal and Lyrica, but I did go off of Topamax which is awesome! The
> Lyrica also helps me with pain issues.
>
> Kelly
>
> On 3/31/2011 5:13 PM, Steve wrote:
> > Hi Kelly,
> >
> > Conratulations on being seizure free 3 years now (smile). Just wondering, in what ways have you noticed changes in you because of surgery?
> >
> > I had a LTL 4 years 5 months ago and I'm still seizure free. Tests show my cognitive abilities didn't get worse but I aware they did. I by my choice, decided not to reduce me mess. Because I feel they are a back up if a seizure trys to come through.
>

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Re: [epilepsy] (unknown)

 

Hi Steve
Notice in the 'To' spot it has a bunch of other names, so went to others either outside or inside our group.
When I get these specially when they don't say anything except give a website, I just delete. Who knows what
it is and not planning on getting on a site I can't get out of lol.
Keep smiling
Julie

Julie Hope
epilepsyhealth@sasktel.net
http://www.2betrhealth.com
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What is this web site for?

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> http://evocsports.com/images/acc.php
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Re: [fast5] Re: Hello! New Here - Question..(The Beans Trick).

 



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:08 AM, free2bmekeywest <dogdoright@aol.com> wrote:
 

ME: Price had a bias toward seafood.  But, he also was a proponent of butter and dairy. He found that a very specific type of butter had health benefits that were almost miraculous.

But times have changed and the sea is not as pure as it was back then.

The land is not as pure either. Grass gets polluted by leaded gas fumes
and mercury in the rain (from coal plants), and some of the places
cows graze were used in the past for all kinds of things. And they have
a habit of swallowing things like whole nails, bullet casings, and barbed
wire. 

 
--------------------------------------------------

> Fish and ruminant animals are VERY different when it comes to nutrition.
> Fish protein, for example, has been shown to lower blood pressure. Fish fat
> is the kind that builds good brain tissue. Vit D is found in fish liver (and
> is probably the reason people could live so far north where there wasn't
> much sun) ... which is why Price recommended cod liver oil as a supplement.

ME: You can get the same effects from eating pastured animals and eating their glands.


OK, let's back up a little here. My original statement was that many people in the US
especially, define a "meat" as basically muscle meat from ruminants, and define
a high-protein diet or paleo diet mainly in terms of that "meat". I said that
"meat" in that definition, does not have all the nutrients a person needs (and
there is some evidence it's not the best protein structure too). I said that a person
eating "vegetarian" in a sense that includes dairy, eggs, or fish can get a
perfectly good diet.

So what you are saying is basically the same thing: you CAN get all the
nutrients ... if you redefine "meat" to also include dairy, eggs, and organ
meats. I totally agree: it is possible to get a decent diet on inland foods
if you work at it. (although as a side note: the "healthy Swiss" who ate
all that healthy butter, also had iodized salt. Before 1919, up to 1/6 of
the Swiss recruits were turned down for service because of goiter. That
was solved by sending iodized salt up to the Swiss valleys, which was
before Price's study).

It's nice to have choices though. You can choose to eat some adrenal
glands and eyeballs .... I'll have mine as a plate of fried shrimp and 
steamed clams.

 
 
  

ME: You are wrong. Cultures that consume high amounts of refined carbs have problems with weight, degenerative diseases and reporduction.

Right. Except, say, most of Asia. Chinese and Japanese are skinnier (and live longer) than folks in the US, even when they eat the same amount of calories and get the same amount of exercise. And they do eat mainly white rice.


 
----------------------------------------------------
>
> I mean, it's been shown that human beings can survive without them, sure,
> mainly because people eating very low carb (like the Inuit) learn to create
> sugars from proteins (which is also what carnivores do).

ME: The human body does not need to create sugar from fat/proteins. Our bodies can use fat/protein as it is.

The brain wants glucose. Animals that eat only lean proteins ... like bobcats, say ... routinely
synthesize glucose from protein, they don't go into ketosis. Inuit do the same
thing. The body CAN do ketosis, but it doesn't, long term.

 
-----------------------------------------------------
But we can also
> create fats out of starches. Personally I think the whole "fat/carb/protein"
> ratio is overhyped, because human beings are good at swapping between fats
> and carbs, and we have only limited capacity to eat protein.

ME: None of what  you have written is true-it is simply your opinion.
Most unbiased research supports the high-carb vegan/vegetarian eating is not optimum for people. It is not an eating plan that generates healthy old people.


Except, say, for the research on old people in Japan and Okinawa. 


STicky VegeTableS
We ate a lunch at the Home Town of Long Life 
market and cafe where foods typical of the area are 
prepared. The traditional diet in Yuzurihara is varied. 
We ate nine different small-portioned dishes at our 
lunch which included fish from a local stream, boiled 
potatoes with miso paste (a dish called tamaji), dark 
purple sweet potato, millet rice, specially prepared 
daikon radish, buckwheat noodles, red onions, a 
Japanese-style bun stuffed with azuki bean paste, and 
a newly introduced sticky vegetable which originated 
from Egypt and is now grown in Yuzurihara called 
moloheiya which is known to be rich in iron and
calcium. Meat was absent (there is no meat market in 
Yuzurihara).



RESULTS: On average, Chinese in China consumed more calories (males 2904 kcal in China, versus 2201 kcal in North America; females 2317 Kcal in China, versus 1795 Kcal in North America and more carbohydrate, but less fat (males 72.2 g in China versus 84.5 g in North America, females 56.6 g in China versus 70.8 g in North America), protein, vitamin A, beta-carotene and vitamin C than did Chinese in North America. Per cent calories from fat was 35% for Chinese in North America and 22% for Chinese in China. In contrast, the per cent of calories from carbohydrates was 62-68% in China and 48% in North America. Chinese in China reported spending more time in vigorous activity, sleeping and walking but less hours in sitting than Chinese in North America. Chinese in China weighted less and were leaner than North American Chinese.

(In another study, they paired men that got similar exercise, and the Chinese businessmen STILL ate more and were thinner than their American counterparts).


Where is the research on low-carb mostly-muscle-meat centenarians? 
I've been looking for an example but have yet to find one.
So far you haven't provided any references to actual studies.

None of the documented cultures with healthy
old folks are low carb, that I've been able to find. Maybe you
can do better.

 
  

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Re: [epilepsy] Re: three years

 

Steve,

I am not actually seizure free. I have about 2 a month, but compared to
multiple seizures a day, I'll take it!

As far as changes, I know I lost at least 14 IQ points. My short term
memory is definitely affected. It took me over 2 years to adjust to the
emotional side effects of having my amigdula removed, I now know what I
can and cannot handle, and what situations to avoid or walk away from.
Some people get upset at me because I walk away, but I knwo fi I don't I
can get really mad. I also have pretty bad concentration issues. I get
distracted really easy, put that with short term memory issues and it's
a yucky combination. I have to make notes and lists for everything. My
computer and Droid help me keep track of things. I have also developed
light sensitivity issues, so I have to wear tinted glasses all of the time.

Put the concentration issues and short term memory together, and I have
decided I won't drive again even if I do become seizure free. I know
that my distraction issues would make me unsafe! I am also still on
Trileptal and Lyrica, but I did go off of Topamax which is awesome! The
Lyrica also helps me with pain issues.

Kelly

On 3/31/2011 5:13 PM, Steve wrote:
> Hi Kelly,
>
> Conratulations on being seizure free 3 years now (smile). Just wondering, in what ways have you noticed changes in you because of surgery?
>
> I had a LTL 4 years 5 months ago and I'm still seizure free. Tests show my cognitive abilities didn't get worse but I aware they did. I by my choice, decided not to reduce me mess. Because I feel they are a back up if a seizure trys to come through.

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[epilepsy] (unknown)

 



What is this web site for?

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[epilepsy] Re: three years

 

Hi Kelly,

Conratulations on being seizure free 3 years now (smile). Just wondering, in what ways have you noticed changes in you because of surgery?

I had a LTL 4 years 5 months ago and I'm still seizure free. Tests show my cognitive abilities didn't get worse but I aware they did. I by my choice, decided not to reduce me mess. Because I feel they are a back up if a seizure trys to come through.

Steve

--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Kelly Porter <kellyporter@...> wrote:
>
> It's been 3 years since my RTL. Sometimes it seems like a lifetime
> ago! Though I have accepted I will not likely ever be "well", I am so
> glad I had the surgery.
>
> Kelly
>

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[fast5] Invitation

 

Hi, I've been member here for almost a year, and although this is an intelligent group, it hasn't met my needs for the most part because the emphasis seems to be more on the types of foods eaten, food practices of ancient and modern cultures, pro-carb vs. low-carb, supplements, etc.

While interesting, I personally would prefer more discussion on basic Fast-5 and weight loss. So I'd like to invite those of you who would be interested in discussing Fat-5 in support of weight-loss to also come over and give  our Fast-5 group at SparkPeople a try:

http://teams.sparkpeople.com/fast5

I'm still going to come here regularly because there are some really interesting and helpful posts, I just wanted to offer another option, and also hoping to interact with others whose main goal is weight loss.

 

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[Healthy_Recipes_For_Diabetic_Friends] Tilapia Florentine - 4g Carbs, 1g Fiber

 

Tilapia Florentine - 4g Carbs, 1g Fiber

From: Simple & Delicious March/April 2009, p24

Looking for a way to get a little more heart-healthy fish into your
family's weekly diet? You'll win them over hook, line and sinker with
this quick and easy entree. Topped with fresh spinach and a splash of
lime, it's sure to become a favorite! Melanie Bachman - Ulysses,
Pennsylvania

This recipe is: Quick
Servings: 4
Prep/Total Time: 30 min.

1 (6 oz pkg) fresh baby spinach
6 tsp canola oil, divided
4 tilapia fillets (4 oz each)
2 Tbsp lime juice
2 tsp garlic-herb seasoning blend
1 egg, lightly beaten
1/2 cup part-skim ricotta cheese
1/4 cup grated Parmesan cheese

In a large nonstick skillet, cook spinach in 4 teaspoons oil until
wilted; drain. Meanwhile, place tilapia in a greased 13-in. x 9-in.
baking dish. Drizzle with lime juice and remaining oil. Sprinkle
with seasoning blend.

In a small bowl, combine the egg, ricotta cheese and spinach; spoon
over fillets. Sprinkle with Parmesan cheese.

Bake at 375 degrees F for 15-20 minutes or until fish flakes easily
with a fork.

Servings: 4
Nutrition per Serving:
249 Calories, 13g Fat, 4g Saturated Fat, 122mg Cholesterol, 307mg Sodium,
4g Carbs, 1g Fiber, 29g Protein

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RE: [epilepsy] Constipation a side effect?

 

Hi

Yes I believe it is a side effect, I am on tegretol and have
problems with constipation. I am also in a wheelchair so
that possibly doesn't help.

Regards

Adrien

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[mailto:epilepsy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark S
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:25 AM
To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [epilepsy] Constipation a side effect?

I was wondering if anyone has had trouble with constipation
as a side effect of their meds. It's kinda embarrassing to
talk about, but I think that seems to be the case with me. I
didn't think about bringing it up at my last appointment
with my epileptologist, but I didn't think it was that
necessary to mention anyway. Should I call the doctor and
mention it? Do some of the meds have constipation as a side
effect? I take Keppra and Lamictal, FYI.
Mark S.

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[epilepsy] three years

 

It's been 3 years since my RTL. Sometimes it seems like a lifetime
ago! Though I have accepted I will not likely ever be "well", I am so
glad I had the surgery.

Kelly

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[fast5] Re: Hello! New Here - Question..(The Beans Trick).

 



--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:50 AM, free2bmekeywest <dogdoright@...> wrote:
>
> > The best source is Weston Price.
> > Even though religions have decided (an opinion) that fish isn't meat-fish
> > is in fact meat the meat from a swimming animal. That is just a fact.
> >
>
> I think Price kept a nice open mind, and he was an experimenter. I think
> experimenting is a powerful force!
>
> He was very much in favor of fish, and seaweed.

ME: Price had a bias toward seafood. But, he also was a proponent of butter and dairy. He found that a very specific type of butter had health benefits that were almost miraculous.

But times have changed and the sea is not as pure as it was back then.
--------------------------------------------------

> Fish and ruminant animals are VERY different when it comes to nutrition.
> Fish protein, for example, has been shown to lower blood pressure. Fish fat
> is the kind that builds good brain tissue. Vit D is found in fish liver (and
> is probably the reason people could live so far north where there wasn't
> much sun) ... which is why Price recommended cod liver oil as a supplement.

ME: You can get the same effects from eating pastured animals and eating their glands.
---------------------------------------------------
>
> Price did study populations before they adopted Western food. The ones he
> mentioned ate a fair bit of seafood (the Scots especially). Most of the
> people he wrote about also had a staple starch ... the Scots had oatmeal,
> the Swiss had rye.

ME: The Scots were not a people that Price found to be healthy. He found the Swiss, The Masai-type tribes, the Inuit-type tribes to be the healthiest.

The staple starch was rarely wheat or corn or rice. It was the psudeograins of teff, millet or rye. And they were consumed in very, very small amounts. Re-read the book.
----------------------------------------------------

I do realize "carbs" have been demonized of late, and I
> do think many Americans have a hard time processing them for some reason,
> but I can't actually see that pattern in history. It's simply not true that
> the populations who eat the most starches ... even simple high-glycemic
> starches like white rice ... are the least healthy.

ME: You are wrong. Cultures that consume high amounts of refined carbs have problems with weight, degenerative diseases and reporduction.
----------------------------------------------------
>
> I mean, it's been shown that human beings can survive without them, sure,
> mainly because people eating very low carb (like the Inuit) learn to create
> sugars from proteins (which is also what carnivores do).

ME: The human body does not need to create sugar from fat/proteins. Our bodies can use fat/protein as it is.
-----------------------------------------------------
But we can also
> create fats out of starches. Personally I think the whole "fat/carb/protein"
> ratio is overhyped, because human beings are good at swapping between fats
> and carbs, and we have only limited capacity to eat protein.

ME: None of what you have written is true-it is simply your opinion.
Most unbiased research supports the high-carb vegan/vegetarian eating is not optimum for people. It is not an eating plan that generates healthy old people.

AMA in Illinois
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Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Re: [fast5] Re: Hello! New Here - Question..(The Beans Trick).

 



On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:50 AM, free2bmekeywest <dogdoright@aol.com> wrote:
The best source is Weston Price.
Even though religions have decided (an opinion) that fish isn't meat-fish is in fact meat the meat from a swimming animal. That is just a fact.

I think Price kept a nice open mind, and he was an experimenter. I think experimenting is a powerful force!

He was very much in favor of fish, and seaweed. He talked a lot about how the nutrients of the land are swept into the ocean, so eating ocean foods was a good way to get nutrients. He also talked about how seaweed was trekked up to the high mountains, so the folks there could avoid goiter.

Fish and ruminant animals are VERY different when it comes to nutrition. Fish protein, for example, has been shown to lower blood pressure. Fish fat is the kind that builds good brain tissue. Vit D is found in fish liver (and is probably the reason people could live so far north where there wasn't much sun) ... which is why Price recommended cod liver oil as a supplement.

Price did study populations before they adopted Western food. The ones he mentioned ate a fair bit of seafood (the Scots especially). Most of the people he wrote about also had a staple starch ... the Scots had oatmeal, the Swiss had rye. I do realize "carbs" have been demonized of late, and I do think many Americans have a hard time processing them for some reason, but I can't actually see that pattern in history. It's simply not true that the populations who eat the most starches ... even simple high-glycemic starches like white rice ... are the least healthy.

I mean, it's been shown that human beings can survive without them, sure, mainly because people eating very low carb (like the Inuit) learn to create sugars from proteins (which is also what carnivores do). But we can also create fats out of starches. Personally I think the whole "fat/carb/protein" ratio is overhyped, because human beings are good at swapping between fats and carbs, and we have only limited capacity to eat protein. It's probably more important to concentrate on WHICH fats or carbs or proteins are eaten. And for that I think your appestat might be the best source of information ... your body knows what it needs, at some level. And what it needs might change during different times of your life, or even day to day.

Since I've been doing Fast-5, I've paid more attention to what I actually WANT to eat, since I only get one crack at a meal, really. And a lot of foods I used to eat don't make the grade. And I've gotten picky even about the source of the food. Home-grown collards have become one of my favorite greens, but the storebought ones don't taste good any more. And none of the family will eat storebought eggs. Or most candy or chocolate. 

In those healthy societies, you see a lot more pickiness about what to eat too. At the Asian stores, the vegies are generally superb, and you have these ladies who are just ferocious shoppers, being VERY picky about vegies and everything else. My Grandma was like that too, coming from the old country. They don't just shove everything into their mouth because it was on TV.
 
 
 
 

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