Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: wake up starving in the middle of the night

 


My goal is to get from 130 to 125, and to not have my belly fat spilling over my pants so much. The way my tummy was when I was younger. 

I do eat something in the middle of the night. I'll try just having water and toughing it out. 

I only recently started tracking my food, more in an effort to eat more veggies - at least 50g of carbs a day. I was amazed to see I was eating much lower than that!!


On Feb 29, 2012, at 4:57 AM, "thentor" <bherring@fast-5.com> wrote:

 

I agree with Heather regarding your goal of 120 -- the appetite center in your brain has know way of knowing what your goal weight is -- it operates on million-year-old biology mechanisms, not numbers. It looks like your body "likes" 125 as a set point and getting lower than that can be a tough fight that makes only a subtle difference in appearance. It may help to get the opinion of a trusted friend on whether you have "extra" fat at 125.

When starting Fast-5, have you tried the gradual-adjustment method instead of a cold-turkey switch?

When you wake up starving, do you eat something? If so, your late-night wakeup may be your body's 24 hour clock saying "feed me -- you fed me yesterday at this time." You may be able to knock out that 24-hour "alarm" by getting through it a couple of times without eating. I know that's not easy, and I don't suggest it lightly.

Do you track your calories every day or was this record a short-term thing? If it's an every day thing you do, it may take a leap of faith to leave the counting behind and let your body do the counting. Thinking less about the numbers (weight and calories) may let your body ease into a more comfortable rhythm that gradually gets you where you want to be.

I hope this helps,
Bert

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, churyl <churyl@...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to do fast five on and off for years, but have an
> obstacle I run into. I've never been able to do fast five for more than a
> day or two.
>
> I typically fast in the morning. I try to make it until 12p and then eat
> till 5p. But I get too hungry a few hrs after I fall asleep. Like crazy
> hungry. I think it might be a cortisol issue? So I wait and eat between 2p
> and 7p. Same thing. I stretch it out to 8p. Same thing. It's much worse
> when I exercise. I've tried eating eggs and canned fish at 8p and going to
> sleep at 930p. Still wake up starving sometimes. It takes me two to four
> hours to get back to sleep. I noticed that carbs at night make it worse, so
> I eat carbs earlier in the day. I STILL wake up hungry.
>
> I eat a paleo diet. 50% fats, 25 to 30% proteins. About 1800 to 2000
> calories a day. I dont eat sugar in any form, except on special occasions.
> I bike an hr a day for transportation. I do crossfit once a week.
>
> I have five pounds to lose and I just can't. I'm going to get my vit d
> levels tested, in case that is the issue. Any ideas? How many calories do
> you eat a day? What do you eat?
>
> Here's a sample of what I do for food and exercise:
> February 15, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium
> Sugars Fiber Breakfast Generic - Bacon Rindless 50 g, 2 slices cooked 140
> 1g 2g 11g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1 c 15 0g 0g 3g 0mg 0mg 0g
> 0g Lunch Boudin Bakery - Spring Salad (Small) W/ 1 oz Dressing, 1 Small
> Salad w/ Dressing 240 11g 21g 3g 10mg 360mg 8g 2g Boudin - San Francisco
> Clam Chowder, 1 cup 190 21g 10g 4g 10mg 990mg 0g 1g Dinner Hibachi Grill
> - Steamed Broccoli , 1 cup 30 6g 0g 3g 0mg 29mg 2g 2g Homemade - Scrambled
> Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g Generic - Ghee,
> 7.5 g 56 0g 6g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Planters - Peanuts - Lightly Salted, 1
> pack (56g) 330 9g 29g 15g 0mg 95mg 2g 5g Snacks Lard, 0.33 tbsp 38 0g 4g
> 0g 4mg 0mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/3 cup 267 4g 25g 7g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 4g TOTAL: 1,531 55g 112g 64g 669mg 1,474mg 12g 14g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 193 50 Bicycling, 14-16 mph,
> vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 338 35 TOTALS: 531 85 0 0
> 0 February
> 16, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Lara Bar - Peanut Butter Cookie, 1 bar (1.7 oz) 220 23g 12g 7g
> 0mg 70mg 18g 4g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g
> 0g Homemade
> - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g 0g Dinner Pistachios
> - Pistachios , 18.75 shelled 56 0g 8g 4g 0mg 2mg 0g 0g Beef, Brisket,
> Trimmed to 1/8" Fat - Braised, 3 oz 246 0g 16g 24g 65mg 41mg 0g 0g Superior
> Farms - Ground Lamb, 4 ounces 290 2g 23g 19g 85mg 80mg 0g 0g Homemade -
> Apple Crumble, 0.63 slice 228 38g 8g 2g 13mg 77mg 0g 4g Homemade -
> Scrambled Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g
> Snacks Green
> Pastures Blue Ice Clo - Fermented Cod Liver Oil, 15 ml 120 0g 15g 0g 23mg
> 248mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,446 67g 98g 84g 831mg 718mg 18g 8g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 251 65 Bicycling, 14-16 mph,
> vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 48 5 TOTALS: 299 70 0 0 0 February
> 17, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Lunch Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade -
> Chicken Soup Broth, 1.5 cup 57 1g 2g 7g 0mg 300mg 0g 0g Deli - Beef
> Mortadella With Pistachios, 168 g 270 9g 12g 27g 75mg 2,670mg 0g 0g Cheese
> - Gouda, 4 oz 403 3g 31g 28g 129mg 927mg 3g 0g Dinner Homemade -
> Slow-Cooked Pork & Beans, 1.5 Cup 326 24g 9g 36g 84mg 606mg 0g 3g Lifeway
> Kefir - Plain Unsweetened, 0.25 cup 28 3g 1g 3g 3mg 31mg 3g 0g Snacks Lara
> Bar - Chocolate Mint, 1 bar 190 25g 9g 5g 0mg 0mg 19g 5g Lee's Pig Skins -
> "Seasoned Dipper" Cracklins, 0.75 oz. (14g) 120 0g 7g 14g 23mg 375mg 0g 0g
> TOTAL: 1,417 65g 71g 125g 314mg 4,909mg 25g 8g Exercises Calories
> Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, 12-14 mph, moderate
> (cycling, biking, bike riding) 314 40 TOTALS: 314 40 0 0 0 Exercise
> Notes
>
> Skipping
> February 18, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium
> Sugars Fiber Breakfast Trader Joe's - Double Chocolate Biscotti, 2
> Biscotti (28 g) 300 38g 16g 2g 40mg 120mg 26g 2g Puffins - Peanut Butter
> Cereal, 3/4 cup 110 23g 2g 3g 0mg 230mg 6g 2g Lunch Eggs - Scrambled
> (whole egg), 1 large 101 1g 7g 7g 215mg 171mg 1g 0g Trader Joe's - Organic
> Lowfat Yogurt, Raspberry, 6 oz. 130 23g 3g 7g 15mg 75mg 19g 0g Dinner
> Cheesecake
> Factory - Original Cheesecake(Corrected 9/6/11), 0.5 slice (151g) 230 22g
> 15g 4g 80mg 165mg 17g 1g the Cheesecake Factory - New Orleans Shrimp, 0.5
> dish 353 49g 7g 12g 0mg 0mg 2g 0g Snacks Ghiradelli - Dark Chocolate
> Squares With Caramel, 1 squares 63 9g 4g 1g 2mg 12mg 7g 1g TOTAL: 1,287
> 165g 54g 36g 352mg 773mg 78g 6g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps
> Weight Cardiovascular Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace, walking dog 48 15
> TOTALS: 48 15 0 0 0 February 20, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat
> Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Silvey - Mexican Frittata,
> 1.5 Slice 612 17g 42g 42g 515mg 1,353mg 7g 3g Simply Potatoes - Shredded
> Hash Browns, 1/2 cup 70 16g 0g 1g 0mg 55mg 0g 1g Uncle Eddie's - Vegan
> Cookies - Chocolate Chip Walnut, 5 cookie 650 90g 30g 10g 0mg 550mg 50g 0g
> Dinner Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Bill's -
> Shrimp - Sauteed, 3 oz 77 0g 1g 24g 165mg 160mg 0g 0g Boston Market - Beef
> Brisket, 2.5 oz 144 0g 8g 18g 59mg 356mg 1g 0g TOTAL: 1,576 123g 81g 100g
> 739mg 2,474mg 58g 4g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace, walking dog 48 15 TOTALS:
> 48 15 0 0 0 February 21, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein
> Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Generic - Egg Scrambled - Large
> (Usda Data), 3 egg 210 2g 10g 9g 416mg 132mg 0g 0g Butter - Salted, 2 pat
> (1" sq, 1/3" high) 72 0g 8g 0g 22mg 58mg 0g 0g Homemade - Chicken Soup
> Broth, 1.5 cup 57 1g 2g 7g 0mg 300mg 0g 0g Pork - Cured, bacon, cooked,
> pan-fried, 2 slice cooked 84 0g 6g 6g 18mg 384mg 0g 0g Dinner Olive
> Garden - Salad With Dressing, 1 serving 290 23g 20g 5g 0mg 1,530mg 0g
> 4g Generic
> - Steamed Clams - Small/Medium/Large, 1 cup (8 large clams, 12 medium
> clams, 15 small clams) 138 5g 2g 24g 63mg 708mg 0g 0g Old Country -
> Sourdough Bread , 2 slice 180 34g 2g 6g 0mg 300mg 0g 2g Butter - Salted, 1
> tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g 31mg 82mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,133 65g 62g 57g 550mg 3,494mg
> 0g 6g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 310 80 TOTALS: 310 80 0
> 0 0 February 22, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest
> Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Butter - Unsalted, 1 tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g
> 31mg 2mg 0g 0g Lunch Butter - Salted, 1 tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g 31mg 82mg 0g 0g
> Dinner Trader Joes's - Chicken Chili With Beans, 1.5 cup 435 48g 14g 29g
> 75mg 1,215mg 9g 9g Fritos - Original Corn Chips (1 oz) Bag, 1 Package 160
> 15g 10g 2g 0mg 170mg 1g 1g Bill's Daisy - Sour Cream, 2 Tbsp 60 1g 5g 1g
> 20mg 15mg 1g 0g TOTAL: 859 64g 53g 32g 157mg 1,484mg 11g 10g
> Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 194 20 Bicycling, <10
> mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 174 45 TOTALS: 368 65
> 0 0 0 February
> 23, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Kerrygold Irish Butter - Butter, 3 Tbsp 300 0g 33g 0g 90mg 315mg
> 0g 0g Lunch Sadler's Smokehouse - Beef Brisket, 3 ounces 260 0g 19g 21g
> 70mg 560mg 0g 0g Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg
> 0g 0g Carl's Junior - Cheeseburger - Kid's, 1 burger 290 25g 15g 12g 40mg
> 790mg 5g 1g Dinner Schwan's - Beef Hot Dog, 1 frank(2oz) 150 0g 14g 6g
> 30mg 510mg 0g 0g Homemade - Ham Hock and Navy Bean Soup, 1.5 cups 340 50g
> 7g 23g 15mg 210mg 0g 19g Homemade - Scrambled Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225
> 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g
> 0mg 0mg 0g 3g Snacks Green Pastures Blue Ice Clo - Fermented Cod Liver
> Oil, 15 ml 120 0g 15g 0g 23mg 248mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,923 82g 138g 90g 913mg
> 2,833mg 5g 23g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding)
> 233 60 Bicycling, 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 194
> 20 TOTALS: 427 80 0 0 0 February 24, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs
> Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Kerrygold Irish Butter
> - Butter, 3 Tbsp 300 0g 33g 0g 90mg 315mg 0g 0g Lunch Homemade - Chicken
> Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g 0g Kerrygold - Pure Irish
> Butter Unsalted, 1 tbsp 100 0g 12g 0g 30mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade - Ham Hock
> and Navy Bean Soup, 1 cups 227 33g 5g 15g 10mg 140mg 0g 13g Dinner Bird's
> Eye - Steamed Broccoli, 1.5 cup 45 6g 0g 3g 0mg 30mg 3g 3g Napa Valley
> Naturals - Extra Virgin Olive Oil, 1 Tbsp (14) g 120 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 0g Blueberries
> - Raw, 0.33 cup 28 7g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 5g 1g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23
> 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Oscar Mayer Bacon - Bacon - Hearty Thick Cut Bacon,
> 1 slice 50 0g 5g 4g 10mg 250mg 0g 0g Vital Choice - Sardines, 1 Can 62g 220
> 0g 12g 28g 78mg 90mg 0g 0g Snacks Liqumins - Concentrace, 1/2 tsp 0 0g 0g
> 0g 0mg 37mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 3g TOTAL: 1,351 50g 101g 65g 218mg 1,062mg 8g 20g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 77 20 TOTALS: 77 20 0 0 0 February
> 25, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg
> 0g 0g Butter
> - Salted, 2 tbsp 204 0g 23g 0g 61mg 164mg 0g 0g Lunch Homemade - Ham Hock
> and Navy Bean Soup, 1.5 cups 340 50g 7g 23g 15mg 210mg 0g 19g Noodle Bar -
> Broccoli Steamed, 56 g 20 4g 0g 2g 0mg 20mg 0g 2g Kerrygold - Pure Irish
> Butter Unsalted, 1.5 tbsp 150 0g 18g 0g 45mg 0mg 0g 0g Dinner Boston
> Market - Beef Brisket, 2.5 oz 144 0g 8g 18g 59mg 356mg 1g 0g Generic -
> Chocolate Birthday Cake, 0.5 slice 219 29g 9g 5g 0mg 0mg 33g 1g Trader
> Joe's - New York Deli Style Cheesecake, 0.10725 of cake (125g) 300 24g 21g
> 5g 105mg 165mg 17g 0g Lard, 1 tbsp 115 0g 13g 0g 12mg 0mg 0g 0g Snacks Texas
> Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 3g TOTAL: 1,730 111g
> 119g 63g 297mg 1,115mg 51g 25g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps
> Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike
> riding) 174 45 TOTALS: 174 45 0 0 0 February 26, 2012 Foods
> Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Kerrygold
> - Pure Irish Butter Unsalted, 2 tbsp 200 0g 24g 0g 60mg 0mg 0g 0g Dr.
> Bernd Friedlander - Mct Oil, 4.33 tsp (4.6 g) 165 0g 20g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
> Lunch Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g
> 0g Kerrygold
> - Pure Irish Butter Unsalted, 1 tbsp 100 0g 12g 0g 30mg 0mg 0g 0g Wild
> Planet - Sustainably Caught Wild Albacore Tuna Fillets, 6 oz 360 0g 18g 48g
> 45mg 750mg 0g 0g Dinner Generic - Sautéed Mushrooms & Onions, 9 oz
> (approx 1/2 c) 284 32g 14g 14g 36mg 113mg 0g 9g Eggs - Scrambled (whole
> egg), 2 large 203 3g 15g 14g 429mg 342mg 2g 0g Beef - Liver - Raw, 100 g
> 135 4g 4g 20g 275mg 69mg 0g 0g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg
> 0mg 0g 0g Snacks Blueberries - Raw, 1 cup 83 21g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 14g 3g
> TOTAL: 1,591 61g 108g 107g 875mg 1,475mg 16g 12g Food Notes
>
> woke up in the middle of the night starving. was up from 130a to 5p
> Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 97 10 Running
> (jogging), 7.5 mph (8 min mile) 85 7 Strength Training

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