I agree with Heather regarding your goal of 120 -- the appetite center in your brain has know way of knowing what your goal weight is -- it operates on million-year-old biology mechanisms, not numbers. It looks like your body "likes" 125 as a set point and getting lower than that can be a tough fight that makes only a subtle difference in appearance. It may help to get the opinion of a trusted friend on whether you have "extra" fat at 125.
When starting Fast-5, have you tried the gradual-adjustment method instead of a cold-turkey switch?
When you wake up starving, do you eat something? If so, your late-night wakeup may be your body's 24 hour clock saying "feed me -- you fed me yesterday at this time." You may be able to knock out that 24-hour "alarm" by getting through it a couple of times without eating. I know that's not easy, and I don't suggest it lightly.
Do you track your calories every day or was this record a short-term thing? If it's an every day thing you do, it may take a leap of faith to leave the counting behind and let your body do the counting. Thinking less about the numbers (weight and calories) may let your body ease into a more comfortable rhythm that gradually gets you where you want to be.
I hope this helps,
Bert
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, churyl <churyl@...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to do fast five on and off for years, but have an
> obstacle I run into. I've never been able to do fast five for more than a
> day or two.
>
> I typically fast in the morning. I try to make it until 12p and then eat
> till 5p. But I get too hungry a few hrs after I fall asleep. Like crazy
> hungry. I think it might be a cortisol issue? So I wait and eat between 2p
> and 7p. Same thing. I stretch it out to 8p. Same thing. It's much worse
> when I exercise. I've tried eating eggs and canned fish at 8p and going to
> sleep at 930p. Still wake up starving sometimes. It takes me two to four
> hours to get back to sleep. I noticed that carbs at night make it worse, so
> I eat carbs earlier in the day. I STILL wake up hungry.
>
> I eat a paleo diet. 50% fats, 25 to 30% proteins. About 1800 to 2000
> calories a day. I dont eat sugar in any form, except on special occasions.
> I bike an hr a day for transportation. I do crossfit once a week.
>
> I have five pounds to lose and I just can't. I'm going to get my vit d
> levels tested, in case that is the issue. Any ideas? How many calories do
> you eat a day? What do you eat?
>
> Here's a sample of what I do for food and exercise:
> February 15, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium
> Sugars Fiber Breakfast Generic - Bacon Rindless 50 g, 2 slices cooked 140
> 1g 2g 11g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1 c 15 0g 0g 3g 0mg 0mg 0g
> 0g Lunch Boudin Bakery - Spring Salad (Small) W/ 1 oz Dressing, 1 Small
> Salad w/ Dressing 240 11g 21g 3g 10mg 360mg 8g 2g Boudin - San Francisco
> Clam Chowder, 1 cup 190 21g 10g 4g 10mg 990mg 0g 1g Dinner Hibachi Grill
> - Steamed Broccoli , 1 cup 30 6g 0g 3g 0mg 29mg 2g 2g Homemade - Scrambled
> Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g Generic - Ghee,
> 7.5 g 56 0g 6g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Planters - Peanuts - Lightly Salted, 1
> pack (56g) 330 9g 29g 15g 0mg 95mg 2g 5g Snacks Lard, 0.33 tbsp 38 0g 4g
> 0g 4mg 0mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/3 cup 267 4g 25g 7g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 4g TOTAL: 1,531 55g 112g 64g 669mg 1,474mg 12g 14g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 193 50 Bicycling, 14-16 mph,
> vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 338 35 TOTALS: 531 85 0 0
> 0 February
> 16, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Lara Bar - Peanut Butter Cookie, 1 bar (1.7 oz) 220 23g 12g 7g
> 0mg 70mg 18g 4g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g
> 0g Homemade
> - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g 0g Dinner Pistachios
> - Pistachios , 18.75 shelled 56 0g 8g 4g 0mg 2mg 0g 0g Beef, Brisket,
> Trimmed to 1/8" Fat - Braised, 3 oz 246 0g 16g 24g 65mg 41mg 0g 0g Superior
> Farms - Ground Lamb, 4 ounces 290 2g 23g 19g 85mg 80mg 0g 0g Homemade -
> Apple Crumble, 0.63 slice 228 38g 8g 2g 13mg 77mg 0g 4g Homemade -
> Scrambled Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g
> Snacks Green
> Pastures Blue Ice Clo - Fermented Cod Liver Oil, 15 ml 120 0g 15g 0g 23mg
> 248mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,446 67g 98g 84g 831mg 718mg 18g 8g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 251 65 Bicycling, 14-16 mph,
> vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 48 5 TOTALS: 299 70 0 0 0 February
> 17, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Lunch Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade -
> Chicken Soup Broth, 1.5 cup 57 1g 2g 7g 0mg 300mg 0g 0g Deli - Beef
> Mortadella With Pistachios, 168 g 270 9g 12g 27g 75mg 2,670mg 0g 0g Cheese
> - Gouda, 4 oz 403 3g 31g 28g 129mg 927mg 3g 0g Dinner Homemade -
> Slow-Cooked Pork & Beans, 1.5 Cup 326 24g 9g 36g 84mg 606mg 0g 3g Lifeway
> Kefir - Plain Unsweetened, 0.25 cup 28 3g 1g 3g 3mg 31mg 3g 0g Snacks Lara
> Bar - Chocolate Mint, 1 bar 190 25g 9g 5g 0mg 0mg 19g 5g Lee's Pig Skins -
> "Seasoned Dipper" Cracklins, 0.75 oz. (14g) 120 0g 7g 14g 23mg 375mg 0g 0g
> TOTAL: 1,417 65g 71g 125g 314mg 4,909mg 25g 8g Exercises Calories
> Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, 12-14 mph, moderate
> (cycling, biking, bike riding) 314 40 TOTALS: 314 40 0 0 0 Exercise
> Notes
>
> Skipping
> February 18, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium
> Sugars Fiber Breakfast Trader Joe's - Double Chocolate Biscotti, 2
> Biscotti (28 g) 300 38g 16g 2g 40mg 120mg 26g 2g Puffins - Peanut Butter
> Cereal, 3/4 cup 110 23g 2g 3g 0mg 230mg 6g 2g Lunch Eggs - Scrambled
> (whole egg), 1 large 101 1g 7g 7g 215mg 171mg 1g 0g Trader Joe's - Organic
> Lowfat Yogurt, Raspberry, 6 oz. 130 23g 3g 7g 15mg 75mg 19g 0g Dinner
> Cheesecake
> Factory - Original Cheesecake(Corrected 9/6/11), 0.5 slice (151g) 230 22g
> 15g 4g 80mg 165mg 17g 1g the Cheesecake Factory - New Orleans Shrimp, 0.5
> dish 353 49g 7g 12g 0mg 0mg 2g 0g Snacks Ghiradelli - Dark Chocolate
> Squares With Caramel, 1 squares 63 9g 4g 1g 2mg 12mg 7g 1g TOTAL: 1,287
> 165g 54g 36g 352mg 773mg 78g 6g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps
> Weight Cardiovascular Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace, walking dog 48 15
> TOTALS: 48 15 0 0 0 February 20, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat
> Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Silvey - Mexican Frittata,
> 1.5 Slice 612 17g 42g 42g 515mg 1,353mg 7g 3g Simply Potatoes - Shredded
> Hash Browns, 1/2 cup 70 16g 0g 1g 0mg 55mg 0g 1g Uncle Eddie's - Vegan
> Cookies - Chocolate Chip Walnut, 5 cookie 650 90g 30g 10g 0mg 550mg 50g 0g
> Dinner Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Bill's -
> Shrimp - Sauteed, 3 oz 77 0g 1g 24g 165mg 160mg 0g 0g Boston Market - Beef
> Brisket, 2.5 oz 144 0g 8g 18g 59mg 356mg 1g 0g TOTAL: 1,576 123g 81g 100g
> 739mg 2,474mg 58g 4g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace, walking dog 48 15 TOTALS:
> 48 15 0 0 0 February 21, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein
> Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Generic - Egg Scrambled - Large
> (Usda Data), 3 egg 210 2g 10g 9g 416mg 132mg 0g 0g Butter - Salted, 2 pat
> (1" sq, 1/3" high) 72 0g 8g 0g 22mg 58mg 0g 0g Homemade - Chicken Soup
> Broth, 1.5 cup 57 1g 2g 7g 0mg 300mg 0g 0g Pork - Cured, bacon, cooked,
> pan-fried, 2 slice cooked 84 0g 6g 6g 18mg 384mg 0g 0g Dinner Olive
> Garden - Salad With Dressing, 1 serving 290 23g 20g 5g 0mg 1,530mg 0g
> 4g Generic
> - Steamed Clams - Small/Medium/Large, 1 cup (8 large clams, 12 medium
> clams, 15 small clams) 138 5g 2g 24g 63mg 708mg 0g 0g Old Country -
> Sourdough Bread , 2 slice 180 34g 2g 6g 0mg 300mg 0g 2g Butter - Salted, 1
> tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g 31mg 82mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,133 65g 62g 57g 550mg 3,494mg
> 0g 6g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 310 80 TOTALS: 310 80 0
> 0 0 February 22, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest
> Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Butter - Unsalted, 1 tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g
> 31mg 2mg 0g 0g Lunch Butter - Salted, 1 tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g 31mg 82mg 0g 0g
> Dinner Trader Joes's - Chicken Chili With Beans, 1.5 cup 435 48g 14g 29g
> 75mg 1,215mg 9g 9g Fritos - Original Corn Chips (1 oz) Bag, 1 Package 160
> 15g 10g 2g 0mg 170mg 1g 1g Bill's Daisy - Sour Cream, 2 Tbsp 60 1g 5g 1g
> 20mg 15mg 1g 0g TOTAL: 859 64g 53g 32g 157mg 1,484mg 11g 10g
> Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 194 20 Bicycling, <10
> mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 174 45 TOTALS: 368 65
> 0 0 0 February
> 23, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Kerrygold Irish Butter - Butter, 3 Tbsp 300 0g 33g 0g 90mg 315mg
> 0g 0g Lunch Sadler's Smokehouse - Beef Brisket, 3 ounces 260 0g 19g 21g
> 70mg 560mg 0g 0g Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg
> 0g 0g Carl's Junior - Cheeseburger - Kid's, 1 burger 290 25g 15g 12g 40mg
> 790mg 5g 1g Dinner Schwan's - Beef Hot Dog, 1 frank(2oz) 150 0g 14g 6g
> 30mg 510mg 0g 0g Homemade - Ham Hock and Navy Bean Soup, 1.5 cups 340 50g
> 7g 23g 15mg 210mg 0g 19g Homemade - Scrambled Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225
> 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g
> 0mg 0mg 0g 3g Snacks Green Pastures Blue Ice Clo - Fermented Cod Liver
> Oil, 15 ml 120 0g 15g 0g 23mg 248mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,923 82g 138g 90g 913mg
> 2,833mg 5g 23g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding)
> 233 60 Bicycling, 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 194
> 20 TOTALS: 427 80 0 0 0 February 24, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs
> Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Kerrygold Irish Butter
> - Butter, 3 Tbsp 300 0g 33g 0g 90mg 315mg 0g 0g Lunch Homemade - Chicken
> Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g 0g Kerrygold - Pure Irish
> Butter Unsalted, 1 tbsp 100 0g 12g 0g 30mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade - Ham Hock
> and Navy Bean Soup, 1 cups 227 33g 5g 15g 10mg 140mg 0g 13g Dinner Bird's
> Eye - Steamed Broccoli, 1.5 cup 45 6g 0g 3g 0mg 30mg 3g 3g Napa Valley
> Naturals - Extra Virgin Olive Oil, 1 Tbsp (14) g 120 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 0g Blueberries
> - Raw, 0.33 cup 28 7g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 5g 1g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23
> 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Oscar Mayer Bacon - Bacon - Hearty Thick Cut Bacon,
> 1 slice 50 0g 5g 4g 10mg 250mg 0g 0g Vital Choice - Sardines, 1 Can 62g 220
> 0g 12g 28g 78mg 90mg 0g 0g Snacks Liqumins - Concentrace, 1/2 tsp 0 0g 0g
> 0g 0mg 37mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 3g TOTAL: 1,351 50g 101g 65g 218mg 1,062mg 8g 20g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 77 20 TOTALS: 77 20 0 0 0 February
> 25, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg
> 0g 0g Butter
> - Salted, 2 tbsp 204 0g 23g 0g 61mg 164mg 0g 0g Lunch Homemade - Ham Hock
> and Navy Bean Soup, 1.5 cups 340 50g 7g 23g 15mg 210mg 0g 19g Noodle Bar -
> Broccoli Steamed, 56 g 20 4g 0g 2g 0mg 20mg 0g 2g Kerrygold - Pure Irish
> Butter Unsalted, 1.5 tbsp 150 0g 18g 0g 45mg 0mg 0g 0g Dinner Boston
> Market - Beef Brisket, 2.5 oz 144 0g 8g 18g 59mg 356mg 1g 0g Generic -
> Chocolate Birthday Cake, 0.5 slice 219 29g 9g 5g 0mg 0mg 33g 1g Trader
> Joe's - New York Deli Style Cheesecake, 0.10725 of cake (125g) 300 24g 21g
> 5g 105mg 165mg 17g 0g Lard, 1 tbsp 115 0g 13g 0g 12mg 0mg 0g 0g Snacks Texas
> Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 3g TOTAL: 1,730 111g
> 119g 63g 297mg 1,115mg 51g 25g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps
> Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike
> riding) 174 45 TOTALS: 174 45 0 0 0 February 26, 2012 Foods
> Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Kerrygold
> - Pure Irish Butter Unsalted, 2 tbsp 200 0g 24g 0g 60mg 0mg 0g 0g Dr.
> Bernd Friedlander - Mct Oil, 4.33 tsp (4.6 g) 165 0g 20g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
> Lunch Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g
> 0g Kerrygold
> - Pure Irish Butter Unsalted, 1 tbsp 100 0g 12g 0g 30mg 0mg 0g 0g Wild
> Planet - Sustainably Caught Wild Albacore Tuna Fillets, 6 oz 360 0g 18g 48g
> 45mg 750mg 0g 0g Dinner Generic - Sautéed Mushrooms & Onions, 9 oz
> (approx 1/2 c) 284 32g 14g 14g 36mg 113mg 0g 9g Eggs - Scrambled (whole
> egg), 2 large 203 3g 15g 14g 429mg 342mg 2g 0g Beef - Liver - Raw, 100 g
> 135 4g 4g 20g 275mg 69mg 0g 0g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg
> 0mg 0g 0g Snacks Blueberries - Raw, 1 cup 83 21g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 14g 3g
> TOTAL: 1,591 61g 108g 107g 875mg 1,475mg 16g 12g Food Notes
>
> woke up in the middle of the night starving. was up from 130a to 5p
> Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 97 10 Running
> (jogging), 7.5 mph (8 min mile) 85 7 Strength Training Squat 4 3
> 15 Overhead
> Press, Barbell 3 10 35 Chin-Ups 3 6 TOTALS: 182 17 10 19 50
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