Hello,
   my hubby says yes to the eyes Most times they were opened or fluttering. As 
 far as how I talk myself out of the pseudo seizures...Well first a person has to 
 know why you are getting them. For me it was because I didn't feel safe or loved 
 and that created lots of stress.The stress was because my Dad was a 
 disciplinarian where the belt did the work and being the middle child as well as 
 one with an  obvious difference from her siblings and other kids and not liking 
 myself because of all of it. I married the first man who supposedly loved me for 
 who I was and the next 19 yrs of my life was so emotional and so full of abuse 
 so that added to the stress.So during that time I  did have brain surgery and I 
 was absolutely free of seizures for a whole month but after the surgery the doc. 
 told me that they might come back because he was unable to cut where he wanted 
 to as I had a huge nerve that ran right down the middle of where they were doing 
 the subdural peel, he said that they may jump over that nerve and I'd have 
 seizures again. well they came back with a vengeance. My doctor up there 
 (Minnesota) just figured that since my seizures came back that they had jumped 
 that nerve so I was put on new meds and experimental ones and they all worked to 
 a point and then boom they stopped working. and then he would start all over 
 again with the meds. Well during that time my home life was down the tube and 
 was not getting any better.to let you know abit about how it was... my ex would 
 not allow me to open windows he put paper across the front door window and back 
 door window he left me in the middle of a store with 2 young boys during a 
 seizure. he would not take me home when at work I had a whopping seizure and wet 
 my pants same place he worked at and they told him to take me home.my ex was not 
 there for me when I was in the hospital for the 4 months of e.e.g.s as well as 
 not there for my 3 different surgeries(brain) to put the grid in and take it out 
 and the subdural peel. I had also had them put the v.n.s in.I had to find a way 
 home from the hospital because he wouldn't come and get me.Had to take the train 
 home and my girlfriend picked me up at the station.I got home and the house was 
 trashed our kids were filthy and not wearing their clothes like they were 
 suppose to because he wouldn't help them get dressed in the right clothes for 
 school and they ended up in their pajamas and shoes on the wrong feet for their 
 school pics....they were in kindergartner and 1st grade, the dishes were in the 
 bath tub and in the oven with mold and bad food in on on them...When the kids 
 were in  2cd and 1st grade is when I had the big surgery and I thank God 
 that one of their teachers took them to live with them during that time.I hope 
 you get the picture of how it was for me. Without even the thought of leaving 
 him I knew I wanted to talk with somebody about all of the crap he put me and 
 our kids through that I started to go to  chat rooms to just talk with 
 people.Well I met my new hubby in one of the chat rooms about dogs lol.We talked 
 and got to know each other as good as you can in a chat room.by the way my ex 
 new what I was doing as he read everything that I wrote to my new Friend he even 
 know it was a man and that we were going to meet in a month. He even took me up 
 to my hotel and dropped me off knowing who I was meeting there.He even picked me 
 up from the vacation and took me home!when we did get home I told him I would be 
 leaving him as soon as Dave my new Friend got things ready in Texas for me.To 
 make a long story short...I got divorced and married my new Friend...He is the 
 love of my life,the frosting on the cake...my soul mate.
  when we moved to Illinois I had gotten a new seizure doc. and that is when I 
 had found out that I had pseudo seizures and I couldn't understand why i was 
 faking seizures when I wanted them no more...I was in denial and thought he was 
 nuts. I did go to the epileptic psychologist  to talk and she explained them 
 more better and we talk about my life and what it was like and what it is now 
 etc. I went back to my epi. doc and asked him which ones were the epileptic 
 seizures and which one were the pseudo ones. and I could tell them apart by what 
 happened during them. my epilepsy psychologist taught me how i can talk myself 
 out of them by repeating to myself that David loves me and that I am safe no one 
 was going to hurt me anymore. I had to let the discipline that my father wash 
 away by facing him and telling him how it had hurt me emotionally and how I was 
 afraid of him. Even though I was 40 it still was in my mind.we now have a 
 wonderful relationship and i am not afraid of him no more. I also reaffirmed my 
 relationship with my Lord and Savior and have him on my side too.It has been a 
 long time to get where I am but I made it only with the love of my 
 hubby,kids,parents and God.there my life in a few short word hope it helps abit.
 
                          Trish (jiminycricketblue) 
 
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 From: "jennieshadow@yahoo.com" <jennieshadow@yahoo.com>
 To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 5:54:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Psychogenic seizures.
 
   
 How do you talk out of a seizure? This would sincerely help me!
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 -----Original Message-----
 From: Julie Hope <epilepsyhealth@sasktel.net>
 Sender: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:15:53 
 To: <epilepsy@yahoogroups.com>
 Reply-To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Psychogenic seizures.
 
 Good for you though Trish ... seizure free for a year. Keep it up girl. I know 
 as some of mine I can talk 
 
 out of too should I catch it in time.
 Julie
 
 Julie Hope
 epilepsyhealth@sasktel.net
 http://www.2betrhealth.com
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "trish schobert" <jiminycricketblue@yahoo.com>
 To: <epilepsy@yahoogroups.com>
 Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Psychogenic seizures.
 
 Julie,
 Yes I have the real ones too.that is why my doc. still has me on carbatrol.
 Mine started when I was 2yrs old.
 
 Trish (jiminycricketblue)
 
 ________________________________
 From: Julie Hope <epilepsyhealth@sasktel.net>
 To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 10:59:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Psychogenic seizures.
 
 Hi Trish
 
 Have you ever in your life had the real kind though? Most people that have the
 non-epilepsy ones have the
 
 real ones too. Know I do. I have the real ones for sure, but there are times
 when am sure they are the
 
 non-epilepsy ones.
 Our daughter had bouts of the non-epilepsy ones and they looked like the real
 ones. Seeing she was already on
 
 the real meds the Dr. taking the VEEG put her on a placebo type med. for
 starters.
 Good for you though ... am so happy for you.
 Julie
 Julie Hope
 epilepsyhealth@sasktel.net
 http://www.2betrhealth.com
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "trish schobert" <jiminycricketblue@yahoo.com>
 To: <epilepsy@yahoogroups.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Psychogenic seizures.
 
 Hi Tim,
 I found out that i have them.At first i couldn't understand why i had those
 but after working with my epi. psychologist i am now able to talk myself out of
 them.I was also showed how my epileptic ones were different so now I have been
 seizure free for almost a yr, My doc even took me off 2 of my meds i still take
 carbatrol though.She says I may get a drivers license now if i want to.
 Trish (jiminycricketblue)
 
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 From: TIMOTHY <tbb1@prodigy.net>
 To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 8:52:27 PM
 Subject: [epilepsy] Psychogenic seizures.
 
 Has anyone with uncontrollable epilepsy found they have PNES(Psychogenic
 Non-Epileptic Seizures).These seizures do not respond to anti epilepsy
 drugs(AED).Epilepsy seizures come on because of electrical activity.If you have
 a non-epileptic seizure during a video EEG and it's not on the EEG but looked
 like a seizure to nurses.It was probably PNES.A few people with real epilepsy
 also have some PNES.
 Tim Baldwin
 
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