I was a vegetarian for several years and i brought my son up as one for awhile. He now eats meat and into body building.
It was more for how animals are treated and for the love of animals, not for the health reasons.
It is alright being vegetarian if you do it properly, getting enough B12 and iron etc. I saw someone i hadn't seen for years recently that has been a vegetarian most of their life, and about the same age as me. I was shocked at how old they looked. And to be honest most don't look very healthy.
I'm a firm believer in a balanced diet now, butter and coconut oil included. It is difficult to get all your nutrients especially if vegan, although i respect people's reasons for being one, i don't think it is healthy unless you do it making sure you get all the nutritents you need.
Anyway, not been on this site for ages. I've done fast five several times in the past. I'm about to start again from tomorrow. It is a great way to loose weight. I think mentally knowing you don't have to give up any foods, although you naturally eat healthier as you progress i find, makes it so much easier to start.
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "tamaratornado" <tamaratornado@...> wrote:
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> Vegetarianism and veganism is very popular. Vegan is very, very hip with younger people especially. And who wants to hurt animals? I became vegetarian when I was in college, and moved into a collective household which was vegetarian.
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> When you are young, it's easier to get away with eating less than optimal foods, so there's no telling how these younger folks will be as they get older if they keep eating vegan.
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> I became anemic as a vegetarian... my brother and I were macrobiotic for a while, he felt better at first, then became pale and skinny. He started eating meat again, then when I got sick I started listening to him.
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> Yet some of my friends still seem to be OK on a vegetarian diet, so I don't bother them about it, and they don't lecture me about eating meat either; live and let live.
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> I would like more acurate info about healthy meat to be out there. I do speak up whenever someone makes a remark that "of course it's healthier not to eat meat"... and seems to me that many people who do eat meat apologize for it nowadays.
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> Well, I could go on and on about it....
>
>
> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "barnabywalker" <barnabywalker@> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Tom Jones <tomjones8@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hehe .. She has been vegetarian for over twenty years, and is far stronger
> > > than me!! I am sure that it isn't the animal fat that is the problem, just
> > > the generally lower levels of fat..
> > >
> > > She isn't brainwashing me at all -- in fact she has turned me on to butter
> > > instead of margarine... and I wasn't not eating meat, just avoiding the
> > > eating of it in her presence (my idea, not hers!!)
> > >
> > > ..
> > >
> > > Tom.
> >
> >
> > Guys just want to be sure that another guy doesn't allow himself to be "P-whipped". ;-)
> >
> > Too much silliness going on in the media about the "dangers" of animal fat. Subway puts only egg-whites, no yolks, in their new breakfast sandwiches. UK cardiologists getting all kinds of press for recommending statins for everyone eating a "fatty" burger.
> >
> > I would recommend you stick with your IF as the only thing you will lose is body fat, if you eat sufficient good food when eating. You stated you couldn't eat very much, so figured you might have been filling up on veggies instead of meat.
> >
> > Barnaby
> >
> >
> > > On 15 August 2010 06:59, barnabywalker <barnabywalker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Tom Jones <tomjones8@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all the replies!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have realised that I have been on a mainly vegetarian diet for the last
> > > > 3
> > > > > months (due to dating a lovely vegetarian lady!), so I probably haven't
> > > > been
> > > > > getting as much fat as I have been used to. She also went on a
> > > > > Weightwatchers diet a couple of weeks back, and my chocolate consumption
> > > > has
> > > > > dropped as a result (I can't eat it in front of her!).
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not feeling poorly or anything - just got a bit worried. I feel a
> > > > bit
> > > > > better now - and just need to make sure that I get an adequate supply of
> > > > fat
> > > > > from somewhere! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again!
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Somewhere, is ANIMAL Fats and Proteins!
> > > >
> > > > She surely hasn't veggie brainwashed you to avoid butter, whole eggs and
> > > > dairy?
> > > >
> > > > And here you were ready to falsely blame Fast-5 for becoming a skinny
> > > > vegetarian. You are losing MUSCLE.
> > > >
> > > > When I read your conundrum, I suspected you weren't eating good food.
> > > >
> > > > Try educating HER by suggesting "The Vegetarian Myth".
> > > > http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/398/The-Vegetarian-Myth.html
> > > >
> > > > Barnaby
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 13 August 2010 12:05, Tom Jones <tomjones8@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I took up Fast-5 around 20 months ago, and it has been very good for me
> > > > -
> > > > > > maybe too good!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I weighed around 13 stone (180 pounds) and my target was around 10.5
> > > > stone
> > > > > > (147 pounds) - which I achieved in about 3 or 4 months. I have spent
> > > > the
> > > > > > last year maintaining this weight, with a bit of cheating here and
> > > > there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the last couple of weeks, however, my weight has dropped to 10 stone
> > > > > > without me trying (140 pounds), and I can't seem to get it back up
> > > > again, no
> > > > > > matter how much I try, I keep getting full too easily!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas, should I stop fast-5 for a while, or give it up completely?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom.
> > > >
> > > >
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