Hi Ellen
i'm trying to get off grains myself and was wondering how you dealt with lack of energy? I tried 2 years ago and found that i was a total ZOMBIE...did you just up your fruit intake to counteract?
Claudia
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>
> HI
> Pain, inflammation and arthritis do NOT "just come with age".
>
> When I was close to your age I too had these problems. I was also vegan. I
> was also very tired all the time -- exhausted actually. So I tried going
> off all grains to try to get my energy back. After three weeks the first
> thing I noticed was that the arthritis was GONE!. I suggested my husband
> try it too and sure enough his arthritis went away. That was about 12 years
> ago. Every once in a while we have tried eating grains again... we found we
> each had our own threshhold, above which we got the arthritis again.
>
> If you want to try this you would, of course have to give up being a vegan
> for the duration of the experiment.
>
> I am 66 years old. I have tried every diet there is in order to deal with
> health issue. I have found that you have to be open to try anything and
> just see what works for you.
>
> By the way, I too tried many supplements to deal with my pain. They didn't
> work for me.
>
> Ellen
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Paul Katz <paulcats02@
>
> >
> >
> > hello all, i am paul. i am a 46 yo vegan (i know Rita and Luz had posted a
> > while ago back, if there were any vegans doing fast 5).
> >
> > quick back story on me is 12 years ago i was 70-80 pounds heavier than i am
> > now (i was about 225 lbs, i only stand 5' 7.5"). i was a full fledged
> > overeater, couch potato, smoker, stoner, boozer and more. there came a point
> > where i decided i had enough of where and who i was (having been overweight
> > since my childhood plus my brain hurt from always being under the
> > influence); i gave up drinking & drugs, started exercising, and eating more
> > mindfully... through activities such as yoga, meditation, martial arts,
> > walking, running and weights, the pounds literally melted off & have stayed
> > off for the past decade and i rediscovered myself along the way.
> >
> > anyway, new challenges have entered my life over the past 2-3 years: they
> > are arthritis, pain & inflammation as well as cholesterol and prostate
> > problems; guess they come with the turf of my age group and/or perhaps
> > genetic predisposition.
> > occasions to rise to?
> >
> > regarding fast 5, i am on my 3rd month. for the most part, i follow the
> > lifestyle 6 days a week (mon-sat per i work tues-sat) then break for a day
> > (sunday). so far my weight has gone from 154 16%BF to 146.5 14%BF; i'm not
> > as much concerned with the my overall weight but it;s been a dream to get my
> > BF to single digits (even if that means 9.9%). The main reason i am fast
> > 5'ing, in addition to getting & staying lean, the health benefits, and
> > optimizing energy levels is because i find that the arthritis, pain &
> > inflammation that challenge me is greatly reduced when i don't eat; of
> > course this is a catch 22 because i can't stop eating *completely*
> >
> > this brings me to a question regarding supplements: i'm going to guess that
> > taking supplements that have minimal caloric value i.e. 5 calories or less
> > would be fine to take during the fasting period? [image: :-/]
> >
> > if so, i am interested in taking systemic enzymes and or SAM-e again (i
> > have used them in the past, always on an empty stomach that's how they work
> > best supposedly) to kill the pain and inflammation. also i am interested in
> > taking beta sito sterol for lowering cholesterol and for the prostate (it is
> > also recommended to be taken away from food, too). any advice on this would
> > be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > last, but not least, i'd be glad to answer any questions on what i do for
> > meals, snacks, proteins, the supplements i take (i take a bunch including
> > b12, b complex, coq, multi, glucosamine & msm, and saw palmetto & pygeum
> > bark), and anything else regarding my 20+ years experience as a vegan,
> > etc...
> >
> > paul
> >
> >
>
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