Wednesday, February 29, 2012

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Re: [epilepsy] Medications, Wheelchairs, SSI, Housing

 

Elizabeth,

What is SHIP?

Millie

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To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Medications, Wheelchairs, SSI, Housing

Jewl,

I would recommend (as someone working in the industry), that people also contact their local Aging & Disability Resource center, or, if you're over 60, you're AAA (Area Agency on Aging). Both have tons of resources, specialists, and now, a specific program to help people transition out of nursing homes.

For Medicaid/Medicare questions, also see your SHIP--they have a lot of Medicare training!! Feel free to ask me--I do this all day, so it's not a problem!

elizabeth

----- Original Message -----
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To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [epilepsy] Medications, Wheelchairs, SSI, Housing

This is the Agency of the ADA, They take your information and can help with
a host of things for you

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* Moving out of a nursing home.
* Getting your medications paid for.
* Getting the health care services you need.
* Renting a place to live.
* Being evicted or having problems where you live because of your
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* Being discharged from a hospital into a nursing home and you don't
believe this is right place for you.
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Re: [Prince-4ever] Birthday Reminder

 

Hey lil brotha ~ Happy Birthday!!!!!


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Re: [fast5] wake up starving in the middle of the night

 

I'm coalescing the responses here. I think it's great that you are analyzing your foods. You can learn a lot by observing!


First, on stomachs that stick out: that was a HUGE issue for me growing up. I looked like a malnourished waif. It turns out I was celiac, and my gut had major digestion problems. That poochy belly may or may not be fat. Given that you work out so much ... it may very well not be fat. You have 30 feet or so of gut, and if it gets irritated, it fills up with liquid which makes you weigh more and makes your belly big.

The way to fix that, if that is the case, is to make your gut happy. Food reactions are one cause: so experimenting with what foods you are eating can help. Grains are THE biggest cause, followed by dairy. But it varies from person to person.

The next biggest cause is general gut inflammation. I think there are two main causes in our culture. The first is: we don't feed the bacteria in the lower gut. They eat certain kinds of fiber, and produce butyrate. Your gut cells eat mainly butyrate, and when they don't get it, they are unhappy. So how to feed them? The best foods are glucomannan (in konjac powder), pectin (in apples), and the various fibers in vegetables. Probiotics are also good, and foods like kimchi and fermented kraut (Like bubbies, or make it at home: most brands aren't as good).

Another big cause, I think, is a high-iron diet. The gut cells take up the iron and store it, and are supposed to release it to the body only as needed. They act as a buffer, since though we need iron, too much is toxic. However, some diets are VERY high in iron, and I think all that iron is irritating to the gut cells. Food in the US has loads of iron added (ferrous sulfate mostly), and if you are eating a lot of beef and liver you get even more. Potatoes are loaded with it also. And the iron seems to promote appetite, much like sugar can, by affecting insulin.

Anyway, I changed my diet to more like the Japanese diet, based on fish, eggs, and greens, and rice, and that has made a huge difference in my health and appetite. It's worth an experiment anyway. 

MCT affects a person's appetite, in my experience, and it does seem to promote weight loss.  It does get your metabolism going too, and is great if your hands keep feeling cold. I don't know if it would keep you awake or not. You'd have to experiment. Having it in coffee does not pass the "yummy" test for me though. I squeeze garlic into it and use it as a crab dip, as one would butter.

I'm not sure how I feel about butter. I know people swear by it. I used to eat it a lot. And then I got more migraines. So I dropped dairy altogether ... and stopped getting migraines! I used to have 5 or so a month. Now I get them very occasionally, when I eat dairy when we go out to eat. Since my migraines were very much hormonal, I think that there could be cow hormones in butter. Which might be good for some people, but it also might affect weight. Cow milk is designed to make calves grow BIG quickly, so it probably affects all kinds of genetic triggers. 

I don't have many thoughts about carbs vs. fat. Humans seem to handle both of them very well, and trusting your appetite is, I think, usually a good idea. The nice thing about Fast-5 is that it gets your appestat working correctly, and you'll crave whatever it is you need, after you begin to trust it. I have in the past followed many different diets, but the thing is, the foods they "chose" for me didn't really work for me, and I'd get health effects. Like, dry scaly skin, or getting depressed. I have been tweaking what kinds of cuisine I cook these days, but it's informed by what tastes good to me and how I feel after. Some people really do better on carbs vs. fat or vice versa. But also: keep track of what kinds of carbs and fat. Wheat/barley/rye have all kinds of effects in the body, other than the carb. Fat comes in multiple styles too, and some, like trans-fats, are just plain bad. 

The kind of protein has a lot to do with weight also. This has mainly been studied in farm animals, because recently they are looking for big animals (read: lots of meat) that are also lean. The amino acid methionine seems to be key in this. Methionine is particularly high in egg whites, which guess what? Is what body builders use a lot. Also it is high in fish. I started eating more eggs, and my body really likes that. I eat the yolk too though, since it also has loads of good stuff in it.

Most people who say "they don't like vegetables" ... don't know how to cook vegetables. I know a guy who "hates vegetables". But, he goes out to eat Thai food and eats plate after plate of green beans. Apparently, whatever Thais do with green beans, it's no longer a "vegetable". Seriously, Thai green beans are amazing. Also very fast to make: toss green beans with soy sauce and oil, and bake at 425 for a few minutes. I make Tom Yum soup a lot too, which is like: put some water in a pan. Add some Tom Yum paste and some vegies. Cook til hot. Add some seafood. Eat.

Learning to eat vegies is a learning curve, sure. It took me years and years, but that was before they invented YouTube. Watch Maangchi or Cooking with dog, and you can see some seriously amazing meals cooked in a few minutes, mostly based on vegies. (No, the dog isn't eaten: the dog is the host of the show. Cute dog too). Anyway, once you get addicted to vegies, then start visiting the local Farmer's Market and get some really GOOD vegies. Generally fresh is better, yes, and by fresh I mean they were just picked. Frozen is ok in soup, but they are too full of water to cook correctly in most meals. Canned ... yech, except water chestnuts and coconut milk. Dried onions, mushrooms, herbs, and peppers work great though, and are super convenient.

I have been growing more of my own vegies, not for political reasons but because I got addicted. They really do taste different, plus they are way more convenient (Go out to porch. Cut onion tops. Cook.). The thing is, some years ago, if you told me if it made a difference if they were local/organic or not, I would have said "of course not". But after eating from our local farmer, we got addicted. Alas, he moved, so now I have to grow my own.

Green onions are a great place to start. You can plant the bottom part of some you bought at the store, in any old pot, and they will just keep growing. Don't worry about all that right now though. Just start with cooking whatever seems good and it's convenient. A good way to start is watching YouTube for one vegie ... carmelized onions are a good place to start. (adding a dash of balsamic vinegar makes them extra good).

BTW, on my vegie soapbox, this TED video is very interesting. It does make you think.


http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/mitochondria-rejuvenating-diet-the-nutritional-experts-bash/ 


We keep concentrating on fats/carbs/protein ... but your body might actually be craving, say,
sulfur or antioxidants or whatever. The more we learn about vegies, the more we learn about how
complex they are.



On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Churyl <churyl@gmail.com> wrote:


Thank you. Such great advice! Yes, I do need more veggies. I don't seem to make the time, and I also dont like veggies all that much. But I'll make more of an effort. Thank you for that. 

I don't generally eat grains or dairy, but I do here and there. I'll cut it out completely and see how that helps.

I weigh 130 and want to lose a few pounds because my stomach sticks out more than my boobs do. It spills out over the top of my pants. I can't wear some of the clothes I used to. I'm not looking at weight as much as I'm looking at how clothes fit me. And measuring parts of my body: biggest part of stomach, below belly button: (1.12.12 and same measurement now, 2.29.12) 33.5", biggest part around bottom and thighs: 38.5"

I just got some MCT oil! I was playing with doing bulletproof coffee (www.bulletproofexec.com). He says to have a coffee with grassfed butter and MCT oil in the am, an then eat paleo between 2p and 8p. He says te coffee and mct oil are fat burning.  But I want to do fast five. I dont like the idea of having coffee everyday. I have trouble sleeping with even one cup in the morning, and I'm concerned that  burning out my adrenals. 

Do you suggest having the MCT oil before bed? At the close of my eating window?

When you say fresh veggies, do you mean raw? Or not previously frozen?


 
 
 

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[Prince-4ever] sheila E at the Oscars

 

4 those who watched the oscars this past sunday, U noticed Sheila E. in the "house band". well sheila E has recorded a instrumental jam entitled "Bumping The E." for the soundtrack for the show and you can download it itunes!

Daddypop

Sincerely,

John Donnelly Jr

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Re: [epilepsy] Medications, Wheelchairs, SSI, Housing

 

Jewl,

I would recommend (as someone working in the industry), that people also contact their local Aging & Disability Resource center, or, if you're over 60, you're AAA (Area Agency on Aging). Both have tons of resources, specialists, and now, a specific program to help people transition out of nursing homes.

For Medicaid/Medicare questions, also see your SHIP--they have a lot of Medicare training!! Feel free to ask me--I do this all day, so it's not a problem!

elizabeth

----- Original Message -----
From: Jewl Wall
To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [epilepsy] Medications, Wheelchairs, SSI, Housing

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Community Living

* Moving out of a nursing home.
* Getting your medications paid for.
* Getting the health care services you need.
* Renting a place to live.
* Being evicted or having problems where you live because of your
disability.
* Being discharged from a hospital into a nursing home and you don't
believe this is right place for you.
* Getting transportation to get to go places.
* Your Social Security or other benefits have been stopped.
* You need a wheelchair, TTY, mobility cane or other aids to help you
be independent.
* You were denied the right to vote because of your disability.
* You want to know what your voting rights are.
* Following an accident or illness you have problems with memory,
thinking, behavior, keeping a job, following directions, getting along with
others or doing things the way you used to.
* You are not allowed into a store, restaurant or other community
setting because you have a service animal or for other reasons related to
your disability.

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Re: [fast5] Re: wake up starving in the middle of the night

 

I've been doing some reading and have found a few other tweaks I want to try:

Carb loading after my crossfit workout. Here's the quick and dirty Primal way to do it, according to Mark Sisson:

"On your heaviest training days (heavy lifting, sprinting, anything that results in glycogen depletion), increase your carbohydrates and limit your fat intake. Yes, limit your fat intake to around 50g (eyeball it – don't demolish that stick of butter today). Don't cut it out altogether, mind you, but emphasize carbs over fat. Fat doesn't have much of a short-term effect on leptin, and, since we want to increase leptin in the short-term without gorging on overall calories, limiting fat and emphasizing carbohydrate is the way to go. Don't do much to your protein intake. Just keep it relatively normal. Limit your refeeds to once, maybe twice a week, and always after really big workouts, but really go for it. Eat a lot of yams, sweet potatoes, fruit, plantains, squash – any Primal source of starchy carb will do the trick (grains and legumes are still problematic, so keep away). Eat more total calories than you'd normally eat and way more carbohydrate calories than you'd normally eat – at least 250 g-300 g worth. Finish your refeed day with a decent chunk of lean protein (chicken breast, cottage cheese)."

Read more: [url=http://www.marksdailyapple.com/carb-refeeding-and-weight-loss/#ixzz1nod7u29Q]Carb Refeeding and Weight Loss | Mark's Daily Apple[/url]


I also want to add these Leangains losing 'stubborn fat' strategies:

[url=http://www.leangains.com/2010/06/intermittent-fasting-and-stubborn-body.html]Intermittent Fasting and Stubborn Body Fat | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health[/url]

drink coffee or take caffeine during fast
bcaa before workout
alphaburn
increase activity during end of fasting state (i bike ride in the mornings, so that's a done deal)

Lastly, I'm thinking of trying a bigger eating window of ten hours per this:

"As we're on the subject, I'll also mention that I've revamped the diet guidelines I use for my female clients. For example, the fasted phase is now 14 hours by default, not 16 hours which is the case for men. This has brought about much greater diet compliance and less negative symptoms among women. The rationale for changing the guidlines makes a lot of sense based on the amount of feedback I've been getting, as well as my research on the topic. It turns out that women has lower plasma glucose concentrations than men after the same time spent fasting. In practical terms, this means that women in general are more likely to get moody and hungry if they go too long without feeding, while men can go longer without experiencing any negative effects, and this is exactly what I've been seeing. Men can do 16 hours quite easily, not so with women; for them, 14 hours is the sweet spot."


Which would mean eating between 10a and 8p. On non-training days, I'm going to start with a bulletproof coffee (butter and MCT oil) and eat again when i'm hungry after that. I may go down to the Fast Five window during maintenance phase if it works better.

On training days, i'll follow this guide:

If i train at 5:30pm -

12-1 PM or around lunch/noon: Meal one. Approximately 20-25% of daily total calorie intake.
4-5 PM: Pre-workout meal. Roughly equal to the first meal.
8-9 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal).

If i train at 1pm -

11.45 AM or 5-15 minutes pre-workout: 10 g BCAA
12-1 PM: Training
1 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal of the day).
4 PM: Second meal.
9 PM: Last meal before the fast.


Would love any comments or suggestions!

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[Prince-4ever] Birthday Reminder



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Title:   Purple Funk Lover's Birth Anniversary !!!
 
Date:   Thursday March 1, 2012
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[Prince-4ever] OT: Davy Jones of The Monkees dead at 66

 

Cause of death appears to be a heart attack. Bobby Z. is very lucky 2 still b alive after his last year. Wow, 3 famous musical per4mers gone so far ths year, & it's only 2 months in2 the year!

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Re: [epilepsy] Informing about EP

 

Millie,

I thought it would be better not to. They didn't seem to have problem until I mentioned EP. Take care.

Terry

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On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:36 AM, "Millie Myers" <mylmy@gogreencroft.net> wrote:

> Terry,
>
> Do you think if you had told them that you had EP in the beginning--
> instead of just saying you have driving restrictions -- that would have
> been OK?
>
> Millie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Martin
> To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Informing about EP
>
> I had advised HR before scheduling an interview that I had driving restrictions. They told me not to worry about it. I again advised the person that was going to be my supervisor after I was hired and she told me the same thing. I didn't tell them why I had driving restrictions, so there was no problem at that time.
>
> The position was to teach a child with autism and bipolar disorder, life skills. I was to do this in his home and in the community. He lived close to parks, restaurants and stores and I planned to take him to those places by walking with him. A child who becomes out of control would be dangerous to drive with even if I did not have driving restrictions. Also his mother would be home when I met with him so she could have driven us to places if she wanted to.
>
> After meeting with the mother, I advised her about my driving restrictions and later in the conversation, I mentioned that I had EP that was controlled by medication. The next day, ten minutes before I was to meet with the child for the first time, my supervisor called me and told me that I was fired. She was yelling at me, refused to answer my questions and and told me that I lied and could not do the job. I asked for her supervisor's name and number and called him. He didn't answer, so I left a voice mail. I never received a call back. I did receive a letter from HR accusing me of misrepresenting myself. I also received a call saying that they would put me back on their list for positions (the same position) in the area and I was told that they would contact me if they had a position. During this time, they were advertising on the Internet for a position in my area, but never called me.
>
> I contacted the EEOC as soon as this happened and after almost two years I was given a "right to sue" letter. I have filed a federal lawsuit against them. The Epilepsy Foundation will go to court with me to offer support. I have asked for that agency to have to pay the Epilepsy Foundation to train their employees about EP.
>
> The worst part of this is that this agency receives federal and state money and it's job is to help clients with disabilities, yet they won't hire someone with EP.
>
> Terry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:34 PM, "Elizabeth Quinn" <equinn76@involvednk.net> wrote:
>
> > FYI...
> >
> > If you are interviewing for a job, NO ONE is allowed to ask if you have a disability!!! I drive, I do home visits for my job, and it's not a problem. I had to take some FMLA time, but I managed to get around, take public transportation to work and reschedule my home visits. Now, if it became a really big problem, eventually they could let me go, but FIRST they have to make a reasonable accommodation for me, which they did. I was able to work from home (which everyone can do 1 day a week), change my schedule, etc...
> >
> > elizabeth
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Susan Wain
> > To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Informing about EP
> >
> > OMG! They cannot fire you or refuse to hire you because of EP, unless you are in a driving position! Did you file a lawsuit against the company?
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Millie Myers <mylmy@gogreencroft.net>
> > To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Informing about EP
> >
> > Terry,
> >
> > I have heard of one person who was fired because they had not reported
> > they had EP when they were hired -- and they found out later. Their reasoning
> > was that because they didn't know -- they wouldn't know what to do if you had a sz.
> >
> > Millie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Martin
> > To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [epilepsy] Informing about EP
> >
> > That was a good way to introduce everyone to epilepsy and tell them how to help.
> >
> > In most cases I am comfortable telling others about my epilepsy. I will not ever mention it in a work environment again. I was fired from a job after telling someone about it. I have filed a Federal lawsuit against them and have asked for the company to pay the Epilepsy Foundation to train all their employees about EP. Take care.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:18 PM, "Millie Myers" <mylmy@gogreencroft.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I have lived in a 3 bedroom with bath apt in a retirement center
> > > for 15 years. Last Tues I was to MC our monthly birthday
> > > party. The MC is to get the program. I had asked quite a
> > > few people -- but I couldn't find anyone to give a program.
> > >
> > > So I decided I was going to tell them about my 50 years of
> > > EP. There are 150 apartments in my building and there were
> > > about 80 people at the party.
> > >
> > > I told them that my first szs started when I was carrying my 2nd
> > > and 3rd daughters but I was not DXed until my 3rd daughter was
> > > 2 years old. My girls were then 2, 4 and 6. They are in their
> > > 50's now.
> > >
> > > I told them that my szs at first were grand mal but now are more
> > > like complex partials-- and explained both; how much meds I
> > > take daily, and gave some examples of when I had szs. I told
> > > them there are 25 different kind of szs and about that many meds.
> > >
> > > I told them to call my daughters living in my town if I don't act
> > > like my usual self -- stare, act like I don't hear them, don't
> > > answer their questions and don't ask questions . I told them
> > > that my daughter's phone numbers are in my Medical Alert on
> > > my right wrist and on the back of my apartment door. I had also
> > > made papers that they could take home if they wanted my
> > > daughters phone numbers.
> > >
> > > I also told them about you in this group and how I had learned
> > > so much from you. I told them I feel very fortunate compared to
> > > quite a few of you who are still having szs although you have
> > > tried many meds, have had operations and still have szs. I also
> > > told them about dogs that are trained to know when you will have
> > > a sz.
> > >
> > > I told them that the reason I was telling them about my szs is that
> > > they will know what to do if and when I have another sz. I have been
> > > on Dilantin and Phenabarb for over 20 years and my last sz was
> > > 5 years ago.
> > >
> > > I got a lot of compliments that I was willing to share my story.
> > >
> > > I am telling you this because I truly believe we who have EP are the
> > > ones to inform and teach -- if we want people to understand EP.
> > >
> > > Millie
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Re: [fast5] Re: wake up starving in the middle of the night

 


My goal is to get from 130 to 125, and to not have my belly fat spilling over my pants so much. The way my tummy was when I was younger. 

I do eat something in the middle of the night. I'll try just having water and toughing it out. 

I only recently started tracking my food, more in an effort to eat more veggies - at least 50g of carbs a day. I was amazed to see I was eating much lower than that!!


On Feb 29, 2012, at 4:57 AM, "thentor" <bherring@fast-5.com> wrote:

 

I agree with Heather regarding your goal of 120 -- the appetite center in your brain has know way of knowing what your goal weight is -- it operates on million-year-old biology mechanisms, not numbers. It looks like your body "likes" 125 as a set point and getting lower than that can be a tough fight that makes only a subtle difference in appearance. It may help to get the opinion of a trusted friend on whether you have "extra" fat at 125.

When starting Fast-5, have you tried the gradual-adjustment method instead of a cold-turkey switch?

When you wake up starving, do you eat something? If so, your late-night wakeup may be your body's 24 hour clock saying "feed me -- you fed me yesterday at this time." You may be able to knock out that 24-hour "alarm" by getting through it a couple of times without eating. I know that's not easy, and I don't suggest it lightly.

Do you track your calories every day or was this record a short-term thing? If it's an every day thing you do, it may take a leap of faith to leave the counting behind and let your body do the counting. Thinking less about the numbers (weight and calories) may let your body ease into a more comfortable rhythm that gradually gets you where you want to be.

I hope this helps,
Bert

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, churyl <churyl@...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to do fast five on and off for years, but have an
> obstacle I run into. I've never been able to do fast five for more than a
> day or two.
>
> I typically fast in the morning. I try to make it until 12p and then eat
> till 5p. But I get too hungry a few hrs after I fall asleep. Like crazy
> hungry. I think it might be a cortisol issue? So I wait and eat between 2p
> and 7p. Same thing. I stretch it out to 8p. Same thing. It's much worse
> when I exercise. I've tried eating eggs and canned fish at 8p and going to
> sleep at 930p. Still wake up starving sometimes. It takes me two to four
> hours to get back to sleep. I noticed that carbs at night make it worse, so
> I eat carbs earlier in the day. I STILL wake up hungry.
>
> I eat a paleo diet. 50% fats, 25 to 30% proteins. About 1800 to 2000
> calories a day. I dont eat sugar in any form, except on special occasions.
> I bike an hr a day for transportation. I do crossfit once a week.
>
> I have five pounds to lose and I just can't. I'm going to get my vit d
> levels tested, in case that is the issue. Any ideas? How many calories do
> you eat a day? What do you eat?
>
> Here's a sample of what I do for food and exercise:
> February 15, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium
> Sugars Fiber Breakfast Generic - Bacon Rindless 50 g, 2 slices cooked 140
> 1g 2g 11g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1 c 15 0g 0g 3g 0mg 0mg 0g
> 0g Lunch Boudin Bakery - Spring Salad (Small) W/ 1 oz Dressing, 1 Small
> Salad w/ Dressing 240 11g 21g 3g 10mg 360mg 8g 2g Boudin - San Francisco
> Clam Chowder, 1 cup 190 21g 10g 4g 10mg 990mg 0g 1g Dinner Hibachi Grill
> - Steamed Broccoli , 1 cup 30 6g 0g 3g 0mg 29mg 2g 2g Homemade - Scrambled
> Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g Generic - Ghee,
> 7.5 g 56 0g 6g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Planters - Peanuts - Lightly Salted, 1
> pack (56g) 330 9g 29g 15g 0mg 95mg 2g 5g Snacks Lard, 0.33 tbsp 38 0g 4g
> 0g 4mg 0mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/3 cup 267 4g 25g 7g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 4g TOTAL: 1,531 55g 112g 64g 669mg 1,474mg 12g 14g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 193 50 Bicycling, 14-16 mph,
> vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 338 35 TOTALS: 531 85 0 0
> 0 February
> 16, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Lara Bar - Peanut Butter Cookie, 1 bar (1.7 oz) 220 23g 12g 7g
> 0mg 70mg 18g 4g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g
> 0g Homemade
> - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g 0g Dinner Pistachios
> - Pistachios , 18.75 shelled 56 0g 8g 4g 0mg 2mg 0g 0g Beef, Brisket,
> Trimmed to 1/8" Fat - Braised, 3 oz 246 0g 16g 24g 65mg 41mg 0g 0g Superior
> Farms - Ground Lamb, 4 ounces 290 2g 23g 19g 85mg 80mg 0g 0g Homemade -
> Apple Crumble, 0.63 slice 228 38g 8g 2g 13mg 77mg 0g 4g Homemade -
> Scrambled Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g
> Snacks Green
> Pastures Blue Ice Clo - Fermented Cod Liver Oil, 15 ml 120 0g 15g 0g 23mg
> 248mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,446 67g 98g 84g 831mg 718mg 18g 8g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 251 65 Bicycling, 14-16 mph,
> vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 48 5 TOTALS: 299 70 0 0 0 February
> 17, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Lunch Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade -
> Chicken Soup Broth, 1.5 cup 57 1g 2g 7g 0mg 300mg 0g 0g Deli - Beef
> Mortadella With Pistachios, 168 g 270 9g 12g 27g 75mg 2,670mg 0g 0g Cheese
> - Gouda, 4 oz 403 3g 31g 28g 129mg 927mg 3g 0g Dinner Homemade -
> Slow-Cooked Pork & Beans, 1.5 Cup 326 24g 9g 36g 84mg 606mg 0g 3g Lifeway
> Kefir - Plain Unsweetened, 0.25 cup 28 3g 1g 3g 3mg 31mg 3g 0g Snacks Lara
> Bar - Chocolate Mint, 1 bar 190 25g 9g 5g 0mg 0mg 19g 5g Lee's Pig Skins -
> "Seasoned Dipper" Cracklins, 0.75 oz. (14g) 120 0g 7g 14g 23mg 375mg 0g 0g
> TOTAL: 1,417 65g 71g 125g 314mg 4,909mg 25g 8g Exercises Calories
> Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, 12-14 mph, moderate
> (cycling, biking, bike riding) 314 40 TOTALS: 314 40 0 0 0 Exercise
> Notes
>
> Skipping
> February 18, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium
> Sugars Fiber Breakfast Trader Joe's - Double Chocolate Biscotti, 2
> Biscotti (28 g) 300 38g 16g 2g 40mg 120mg 26g 2g Puffins - Peanut Butter
> Cereal, 3/4 cup 110 23g 2g 3g 0mg 230mg 6g 2g Lunch Eggs - Scrambled
> (whole egg), 1 large 101 1g 7g 7g 215mg 171mg 1g 0g Trader Joe's - Organic
> Lowfat Yogurt, Raspberry, 6 oz. 130 23g 3g 7g 15mg 75mg 19g 0g Dinner
> Cheesecake
> Factory - Original Cheesecake(Corrected 9/6/11), 0.5 slice (151g) 230 22g
> 15g 4g 80mg 165mg 17g 1g the Cheesecake Factory - New Orleans Shrimp, 0.5
> dish 353 49g 7g 12g 0mg 0mg 2g 0g Snacks Ghiradelli - Dark Chocolate
> Squares With Caramel, 1 squares 63 9g 4g 1g 2mg 12mg 7g 1g TOTAL: 1,287
> 165g 54g 36g 352mg 773mg 78g 6g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps
> Weight Cardiovascular Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace, walking dog 48 15
> TOTALS: 48 15 0 0 0 February 20, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat
> Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Silvey - Mexican Frittata,
> 1.5 Slice 612 17g 42g 42g 515mg 1,353mg 7g 3g Simply Potatoes - Shredded
> Hash Browns, 1/2 cup 70 16g 0g 1g 0mg 55mg 0g 1g Uncle Eddie's - Vegan
> Cookies - Chocolate Chip Walnut, 5 cookie 650 90g 30g 10g 0mg 550mg 50g 0g
> Dinner Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Bill's -
> Shrimp - Sauteed, 3 oz 77 0g 1g 24g 165mg 160mg 0g 0g Boston Market - Beef
> Brisket, 2.5 oz 144 0g 8g 18g 59mg 356mg 1g 0g TOTAL: 1,576 123g 81g 100g
> 739mg 2,474mg 58g 4g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace, walking dog 48 15 TOTALS:
> 48 15 0 0 0 February 21, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein
> Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Generic - Egg Scrambled - Large
> (Usda Data), 3 egg 210 2g 10g 9g 416mg 132mg 0g 0g Butter - Salted, 2 pat
> (1" sq, 1/3" high) 72 0g 8g 0g 22mg 58mg 0g 0g Homemade - Chicken Soup
> Broth, 1.5 cup 57 1g 2g 7g 0mg 300mg 0g 0g Pork - Cured, bacon, cooked,
> pan-fried, 2 slice cooked 84 0g 6g 6g 18mg 384mg 0g 0g Dinner Olive
> Garden - Salad With Dressing, 1 serving 290 23g 20g 5g 0mg 1,530mg 0g
> 4g Generic
> - Steamed Clams - Small/Medium/Large, 1 cup (8 large clams, 12 medium
> clams, 15 small clams) 138 5g 2g 24g 63mg 708mg 0g 0g Old Country -
> Sourdough Bread , 2 slice 180 34g 2g 6g 0mg 300mg 0g 2g Butter - Salted, 1
> tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g 31mg 82mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,133 65g 62g 57g 550mg 3,494mg
> 0g 6g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 310 80 TOTALS: 310 80 0
> 0 0 February 22, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest
> Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Butter - Unsalted, 1 tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g
> 31mg 2mg 0g 0g Lunch Butter - Salted, 1 tbsp 102 0g 12g 0g 31mg 82mg 0g 0g
> Dinner Trader Joes's - Chicken Chili With Beans, 1.5 cup 435 48g 14g 29g
> 75mg 1,215mg 9g 9g Fritos - Original Corn Chips (1 oz) Bag, 1 Package 160
> 15g 10g 2g 0mg 170mg 1g 1g Bill's Daisy - Sour Cream, 2 Tbsp 60 1g 5g 1g
> 20mg 15mg 1g 0g TOTAL: 859 64g 53g 32g 157mg 1,484mg 11g 10g
> Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 194 20 Bicycling, <10
> mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 174 45 TOTALS: 368 65
> 0 0 0 February
> 23, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Kerrygold Irish Butter - Butter, 3 Tbsp 300 0g 33g 0g 90mg 315mg
> 0g 0g Lunch Sadler's Smokehouse - Beef Brisket, 3 ounces 260 0g 19g 21g
> 70mg 560mg 0g 0g Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg
> 0g 0g Carl's Junior - Cheeseburger - Kid's, 1 burger 290 25g 15g 12g 40mg
> 790mg 5g 1g Dinner Schwan's - Beef Hot Dog, 1 frank(2oz) 150 0g 14g 6g
> 30mg 510mg 0g 0g Homemade - Ham Hock and Navy Bean Soup, 1.5 cups 340 50g
> 7g 23g 15mg 210mg 0g 19g Homemade - Scrambled Eggs (1 Egg), 3 large egg 225
> 3g 15g 18g 645mg 0mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g
> 0mg 0mg 0g 3g Snacks Green Pastures Blue Ice Clo - Fermented Cod Liver
> Oil, 15 ml 120 0g 15g 0g 23mg 248mg 0g 0g TOTAL: 1,923 82g 138g 90g 913mg
> 2,833mg 5g 23g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
> Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding)
> 233 60 Bicycling, 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 194
> 20 TOTALS: 427 80 0 0 0 February 24, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs
> Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Kerrygold Irish Butter
> - Butter, 3 Tbsp 300 0g 33g 0g 90mg 315mg 0g 0g Lunch Homemade - Chicken
> Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g 0g Kerrygold - Pure Irish
> Butter Unsalted, 1 tbsp 100 0g 12g 0g 30mg 0mg 0g 0g Homemade - Ham Hock
> and Navy Bean Soup, 1 cups 227 33g 5g 15g 10mg 140mg 0g 13g Dinner Bird's
> Eye - Steamed Broccoli, 1.5 cup 45 6g 0g 3g 0mg 30mg 3g 3g Napa Valley
> Naturals - Extra Virgin Olive Oil, 1 Tbsp (14) g 120 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 0g Blueberries
> - Raw, 0.33 cup 28 7g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 5g 1g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23
> 0g 0g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g Oscar Mayer Bacon - Bacon - Hearty Thick Cut Bacon,
> 1 slice 50 0g 5g 4g 10mg 250mg 0g 0g Vital Choice - Sardines, 1 Can 62g 220
> 0g 12g 28g 78mg 90mg 0g 0g Snacks Liqumins - Concentrace, 1/2 tsp 0 0g 0g
> 0g 0mg 37mg 0g 0g Texas Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g 0mg 0mg
> 0g 3g TOTAL: 1,351 50g 101g 65g 218mg 1,062mg 8g 20g Exercises
> Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph,
> leisure (cycling, biking, bike riding) 77 20 TOTALS: 77 20 0 0 0 February
> 25, 2012 Foods Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
> Breakfast Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg
> 0g 0g Butter
> - Salted, 2 tbsp 204 0g 23g 0g 61mg 164mg 0g 0g Lunch Homemade - Ham Hock
> and Navy Bean Soup, 1.5 cups 340 50g 7g 23g 15mg 210mg 0g 19g Noodle Bar -
> Broccoli Steamed, 56 g 20 4g 0g 2g 0mg 20mg 0g 2g Kerrygold - Pure Irish
> Butter Unsalted, 1.5 tbsp 150 0g 18g 0g 45mg 0mg 0g 0g Dinner Boston
> Market - Beef Brisket, 2.5 oz 144 0g 8g 18g 59mg 356mg 1g 0g Generic -
> Chocolate Birthday Cake, 0.5 slice 219 29g 9g 5g 0mg 0mg 33g 1g Trader
> Joe's - New York Deli Style Cheesecake, 0.10725 of cake (125g) 300 24g 21g
> 5g 105mg 165mg 17g 0g Lard, 1 tbsp 115 0g 13g 0g 12mg 0mg 0g 0g Snacks Texas
> Star Nuts - Walnuts, 1/4 cup 200 3g 19g 5g 0mg 0mg 0g 3g TOTAL: 1,730 111g
> 119g 63g 297mg 1,115mg 51g 25g Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps
> Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling, <10 mph, leisure (cycling, biking, bike
> riding) 174 45 TOTALS: 174 45 0 0 0 February 26, 2012 Foods
> Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Breakfast Kerrygold
> - Pure Irish Butter Unsalted, 2 tbsp 200 0g 24g 0g 60mg 0mg 0g 0g Dr.
> Bernd Friedlander - Mct Oil, 4.33 tsp (4.6 g) 165 0g 20g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
> Lunch Homemade - Chicken Soup Broth, 1 cup 38 1g 1g 5g 0mg 200mg 0g
> 0g Kerrygold
> - Pure Irish Butter Unsalted, 1 tbsp 100 0g 12g 0g 30mg 0mg 0g 0g Wild
> Planet - Sustainably Caught Wild Albacore Tuna Fillets, 6 oz 360 0g 18g 48g
> 45mg 750mg 0g 0g Dinner Generic - Sautéed Mushrooms & Onions, 9 oz
> (approx 1/2 c) 284 32g 14g 14g 36mg 113mg 0g 9g Eggs - Scrambled (whole
> egg), 2 large 203 3g 15g 14g 429mg 342mg 2g 0g Beef - Liver - Raw, 100 g
> 135 4g 4g 20g 275mg 69mg 0g 0g Homemade - Beef Broth, 1.5 c 23 0g 0g 5g 0mg
> 0mg 0g 0g Snacks Blueberries - Raw, 1 cup 83 21g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 14g 3g
> TOTAL: 1,591 61g 108g 107g 875mg 1,475mg 16g 12g Food Notes
>
> woke up in the middle of the night starving. was up from 130a to 5p
> Exercises Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight Cardiovascular Bicycling,
> 14-16 mph, vigorous (cycling, biking, bike riding) 97 10 Running
> (jogging), 7.5 mph (8 min mile) 85 7 Strength Training

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