Hi Matt,everyone,
Say matt stay w/the group,like steve said,we are here to eachother as much as we can,there are those that say he/she is right/wrong,I don't drop in alot but I try my best to do so,I been w/the group for a while now,its help me when I need a place to talk about my life living w/this epilepsy proble,so please stay w.us,
Rodolfo
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From: Steve <stephenpales@yahoo.com>
To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 3:35:10 PM
Subject: [epilepsy] Re: The whole magnesium deficiency argument
Hi Matthew,
This group is a very supportive group. I've been in this group for maybe 9 years or so? So don't leave, OK. But, sometimes in groups, there are people who feel good degrading others. Pretty much saying "I'm right, you are wrong". You are totally correct that a subject can politely be discussed. And there are those few who need to constantly go on and on about one specific thing not willing to change the subject. But stay with the group, give it time to the subject being changed. Hey, we all need to talk about subjects we can use support with. And at the same time need to hear the stories of others so we don't feel alone. Take care, keep a smile on your face!
Steve
--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "HeidiF" <ferg0375@...> wrote:
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> I am starting to get the feeling this board is hostile. Why are others PUSHING opinions on members in this group and belittling those who do not agree? Isn't there a moderator here or is this type of behavior acceptable? i thought this was a safe place to talk about personal issues like seizures and depression without having magnesium supplements shoved down your throat? Don't people with seizure disorders face enough without having to come here and be treated like this. i am disappointed!
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> --- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "Shan" <surpriseshan2@> wrote:
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> > You know if you used as much energy trying to find out the truth as you do making up your own reality , you would be amazed at the results. Magnesium does do all that and more. Why don't you try using transdermal magnesium and see is your headaches go away? or are you afraid of being proved wrong? For that matter, have you ever heard of an informed opinion? You might try it - maybe people will even respect you more. Plus at the least listening to you would be informative. I have posted here studies and have also posted places where anyone can find their own studes - those people whom are interested in having an informed opinion will check them out.
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> > I can and have posted studies to support my allegations - why don't you check them out? I have purposely put the urls to where they can be found. Or is it that you have not done that because you are afraid that you might find out that you are wrong?
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> > Or is it easier to have a closed mind? and to just make up realiity ?
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> > > You are incorrect that Shan does not make totalitarian arguments and I quote :"The anticonvulsants all deplete magnesium - depression is associated
> > > with magnesium deficiency. Get your magnesium levels up and you won't
> > > get depressed, won't have a lot of anziety and will sleep better. You
> > > will be less irritated as well as less aggressive. Magnesium is also
> > > used to cure headaches - migraines are a symptom of magnesium deficiency
> > > and can be alleviated with magnesium."
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> > > I don't know how you want me to chill out, my magnesium levels are fine and I am still depressed, my magnesium levels are fine and I still get headaches and migraines.
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> > > Shan claims that a magnesium deficiency is the root cause of all of the following problems:
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> > > 1. My seizures
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> > > 2. My depression
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> > > 3. My headaches and migraines
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> > > 4. My anger and depression
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> > > I will not "chill" out
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> > > I am not disagreeing that a magnesium deficiency may cause problems, I am stating that Shan's claims that a magnesium deficiency is the root cause of all my problems is preposterous, and he does claim that magnesium is the primary source of all my symptoms, which is not only an insult to my intelligence, but more importantly:
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> > > Those of us who get really depressed and desperate continue to seek anything that will help us. I would hate to see someone on the end of their rope get sucked into this belief system and then be destroyed when it does not work.
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> > > Do you honestly want to be partly responsible for someone's demise all because you wish to tolerate someone who is claiming to have a "cure all" for all our problems.
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> > > I will not sit idly by, I will not chill out.
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> > > Katt
> > > --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Liz Welker <lizard110366@> wrote:
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> > > From: Liz Welker <lizard110366@>
> > > Subject: [epilepsy] The whole magnesium deficiency argument
> > > To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 8:24 PM
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> > > Okay, folks. Chill out. If you google this, you'll see that it is, in fact, a valid point. It isn't appropriate to say that all szs result from mag deficiency (and I don't recall seeing that in Shan's post), but AEDs are, in fact, known to deplete mag, D, and other crucial vitamins and minerals. When I told my endocrinologist that I was still having SP clusters at season change a few years ago, she suggested adding mag. I checked it with my neurosurgeon (who manages all my brain matters), and he said it might help. It took some of the punch out of them, and I didn't have as many, but my SPs didn't stop. Even so, it was worth trying,
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