Shan,
I have never resorted to insulting you. If you look at the code of conduct for the group it specifically says that we are expected to respect others in the gorup. I have never attacked you I have said that there was no merit in your theory and that is not an insult to your person. So ,I would appreciate an apology, just because you do not like the fact that I think your "magnesium cure" is total junk science, does not give you free reign to insult me.
Like I have said before, I have no problem with you saying that magnesium deficiency is a problem or that it can cause problems, I have a problem with your absolutism, that magnesium is the only problem and there can be no other options or opinions.
Matt
--- On Sat, 5/22/10, Shan <surpriseshan2@aol.com> wrote:
From: Shan <surpriseshan2@aol.com>
Subject: [epilepsy] Re: The whole magnesium deficiency argument
To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 2:20 PM
I did not say that the scar tissue was caused by a magnesium deficiency. And a magnesium deficiency does not do that eihter. Maybe you should try reading again? You sure bombed out that time Do you have a reading problem or is it just comprehension?
blessings
Shan
--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, matthew ferguson <ferg1975@...> wrote:
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> You HAVE NO PROOF that the scar tissue was caused by a magnesium deficiency, it could have very well been an auto-immune response or a genetic disorder, or a metabolic disorder, or any number of deficiencies in the body, or any number of problems that neither you or I are qualified to predict. It could have been a result of trauma as a baby, you have no idea and you do not have the AUTHORITY to make such claims.
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> Subject: [epilepsy] Re: The whole magnesium deficiency argument
> To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
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