Ohh, thanks for that! Sounds like a great recipe and I DO love chili!
It'll be interesting to see the results of your experimenting. Like I said, various substances eaten prior to a meal DO help people not overeat; I don't think it's even controversial. Whether or not taste has to do with it might be controversial. I will say though, that it's unlikely you'll overeat on your "snack" if it is just straight olive oil. Or sugar water (sugar water worked for him too).
Foods with iron in them are easier to overeat, in my observation. Iron makes people more insulin resistant, which might be part of it? Or the body craves iron like it craves salt sometimes? Brown sugar is way more easy to overeat than white sugar is.
But chili interferes with iron, so it throws another variable into the mix. And of course chili tastes really good!
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:26 AM, RickS <no3rdseat@gmail.com> wrote:
Hiya Heather-
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@...> wrote:
> Well, goat chili contains beans I think? Beans are a great appetite stopper
> also: slow-digesting fiber.
I make my chili with only meat, spices and a jalapeno or habanero. No tomatoes, beans, or anything else. Here's my parts list:
One pound of any ground meat (goat, bison, cow, sheep),
1 tbsp chili powder,
1 tbsp cumin,
1 tbsp paprika,
1 tsp ground cinnamon,
1 tsp unsweetened cocoa powder
1/4 tsp sea salt,
One jalapeno, diced,
One 12oz beer
> The protein in the goat too. Protein is known as
> an appetite-stopper (although like I said, eggs and fish seem to be the most
> efficient: I don't know about goat, I haven't had it but once). Seems like
> you keep picking really healthy appetite stoppers!
I've read that protein is a good appetite suppressant because it fills the belly and digest slowly. But that doesn't seem to be the case with me. I can eat a WHOLE rack of ribs (plain, no sauce) and still be starved. I've also read that fat is a good appetite suppressant. Similarly, I can eat a WHOLE rack of ribs and a half stick of butter with a cup of coffee filled with heavy cream and still be hungry!
This is why it's so bizarre that I could eat three eggs, a can of sardines, and a sheet of nori and be full. :)
Last night I had the oil and water, waited an hour, had my goat chili and later found myself snacking on potato chips and beer. It wasn't an uncontrollable craving. It was more that my wife was eating chips so I grabbed a couple handfuls. But I was able to easily stop and not finish the whole bag. Was that a result of the oil and water? I dunno.
I'm really encouraged though by your assessment that there's something about eggs and fish that can control the appetite. Tonight I might make the chili again, but leave out the salt. Tomorrow, I'm going to try the eggs and sardines again and see what happens. Then again, as far as the salt goes, I have been putting salt and salted butter on my eggs. Hmmmm...
> I don't know much about the diet, but if it's about *taste*, how about
> eating something bland that is NOT an appetite stopper? Maybe the ultimate
> test would be a plain cracker or simple bread, with no salt. (according to
> the writup, the Shangri-la diet includes ANY foods?).
Yep, that's what they say. I can't eat gluten containing foods so the cracker/bread thing is out. And I'm allergic to A1 beta-casein so I can't eat my beloved cheese. I have found that I can eat goat or sheep cheese because the casein is different (A1 vs A2). If I eat cow cheese, my seasonal allergies are miserable. If I eat no cheese or small mammal cheese my seasonal allergies are non-existent.
>
> BTW, my own theories on why Fast-5 works is that I think it changes your gut
> health. Having a nice period with no food, the gut can do "house cleaning"
> and change the bacterial mix, which also affects iron absorption The cells
> get loaded with iron and they slough off during house-cleaning maybe? And
> the new cells can then work better, preventing overload in the next meal.
I agree. There's just SO much good science pointing to better health by allowing your gut to rest.
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