Monday, March 26, 2012

Re: [fast5] Keeping Insulin Low Re: BF doesn't like Fast-5

 

The latest issue of Parrillo magazine had an interesting take on the low-carb diets. This is basically geared for body-builders, but it interests me because the Parrillo people routinely take fat people and turn them into lean, muscular people ... they DO know how to do it scientifically. [I know a lot of people think the body-builders are all on steroids, but I don't think so. Many are adamantly anti-drug, and the women body-builders just can't get the muscle mass that guys have, no matter what]. I used their program many years ago and it did work, but I stopped mainly because it takes more discipline than I have. (At our small company we all went on the diet at the same time, and we all lost weight, although none of us wanted to become body-builders). They are also into the 5-meal-a-day thing, which is really difficult without helps like protein bars and shakes, which are hard to get in a GFCF form! I don't think the constant eating though, is really the key. Constant eating is a rarity historically and around the world.


Anyway, their take is that when fat and carbs are eaten together, the carbs block the body from using fat. So if you go low-carb, then the body starts using fat, just like the low-carbers say. And if you go on a high-carb low-fat diet, then you can also lose weight, just like the low-fat people say. But if you combine the two, it's hard to lose weight.

However, they use MCT instead of other fats, and that seems to keep the "fat burning" channel open even when there are carbs in the diet. They found that on low-carb diets, the athletes lose energy. This may be an individual thing. But the Parrillo plan includes "some" carbs with every meal (yams, brown rice, oats), plus lots of what they call "fibrous vegetables" (greens etc), plus plenty of protein (fish, chicken, eggs). They allow whole wheat too, but when I've seen examples of the meals, the wheat is basically something like steamed bulgur, and oats are more common.

So this might be part of the secret of the Asian diet. It's not really super-high carb, but there is rice with each meal, or yams, and plenty of vegies. The same kinds of proteins are used (fish, chicken, eggs), which all happen to be high-methionine low-iron-storage proteins. Not much oil is used in cooking, but in much of Asia, the oil used is coconut, which is where MCT comes from, and seseme, which has the essential fatty acids that keep skin healthy.

Given the choice though, Asian cooking is way more tasty ... it also might result in a different body structure, since Bruce Lee, as strong as he was, didn't have the huge muscles. The "huge muscle mass" think might be either technique, genes, hormones, or all of the above. Bruce Lee stuck to his Chinese-based diet though, and it worked for him! 

Segue to Sumo wrestlers, who have a more typical American body type ... their diet is based on wheat noodles, beef/pork, and vegies. Also very strong, but not exactly "ripped" :-)  The contrast is really interesting to me ... I can see several factors at work, possibly synchronistically. Ruminant proteins are rather different than those in fish and poultry, and the fat is a different type too. Wheat causes temporary leaky gut, which might cause over-absorption of iron, and disables the villi (extremely so in some people) maybe allowing over-eating. Ruminant fat and heme meat allow more iron absorption too, and iron causes the same kind of insulin surge that you see with carbs. And they have the high-fat high-carb type diet that the Parriillo people say to avoid.



On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, barnabywalker <barnabywalker@gmail.com> wrote:
Low Insulin levels is the too often neglected benefits of Fasting.

Just today, the "news" was proclaiming the benefits of those in a study of those with gastric bypass surgery able to go off their Diabetes type 2 medicine, because of the body adjusting itself through diet to better handle insulin.

Low Insulin has so many health benefits, which is why low carb is beneficial as well as the lower insulin levels as a result of fasting.

Too many benefits can be found as the result of what and when you eat. Don't expect the medical community to always state what's best. I see St John's Wort as the most effective "medicine" I give my 80 year old parents with dementia. This herbal anti-depressant used often in Europe but pretty much neglected in US, and the high buck prescription meds don't do nearly as much. My Mom's neurologist thankfully gave approval that the St John's Wort could be helpful, while many others in the Alzheimer caretakers community simply follow the Dr. suggestions of only the prescription meds.

The medical "experts" that recommend 5 meals a day, I personally ignore since seeing the true benefits of fasting.

A fatty meal gives stick to itiveness to a meal of meat and green vegetables, while avoiding the "staff of life" BREAD is probably the  best thing possible for good health. I had questioned Heather's rice recommendation because of high carbs but have seen first hand it as a great meal addition with fish and depend upon fasting to deliver benefits that a low carb person would likely avoid.

In short, better to believe the low insulin people.

Barnaby


--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Dalton <stephanie.dalton12@...> wrote:
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> I have found the same problem with people at work because they tell me it's unhealthy and I told them that there is plenty of research to support IF and they said you can find research to support anything.  What I finally said is that IF allows my body to detox and get rid of excess, unwanted garbage that my body may have packed on and I tell them that I feel healthier.  I have more energy and feel better about myself and then I just don't talk to them about it anymore. 




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