Shan,
With all due respect, I do not have a problem with saying or anybody saying that a magnesium deficiency CAN be a possible reason someone might have the symptoms I have had.
I have a problem with people saying that ALL people with these symptoms have a magnesium deficiency.
I do have an open mind, and have explained very clearly why your theory is most grievously wrong and dangerous. I do not want to see someone put all of their faith in your theory, when they are on the end of their rope and suicidal, only to be ultimately crushed by your absolutism.
I have tried trans-dermal magnesium creams. As I have explained, my son had autism and we tried just about every mineral, vitamin, etc. in order to find a "cure", none of those things "cured" him, they improved his life, only until we found his immune disorder (which had nothing to do with magnesium as sexy as it sounds), did we find a cause and cure.
One of the things we tried was trans-dermal magnesium, we also gave him Epsom salt baths, to increase the absorption of magnesium into the body. I also read books making the same claims as you have and so I tried the cream and Epsom salt baths, but here I am still having seizures, headaches, depression, and irritability (which right now involves you).
SPEAKING of non-reality, you will not even admit to the POSSIBILITY that there may be other causes for people's symptoms but yet insist on only ONE treatment. That is not holistic or alternative medicine, that is not scientific, and it sounds very much like you are pushing a PRODUCT and I do not and cannot TOLERATE someone who PREYS on the desperate.
Since seizures, headaches, heart problems, depression, and irritability can all be caused by MULTIPLE imbalances, auto-immune dysfunctions, genetic disorders, etc., your theory is ultimately unfounded.
I do not make up my own reality, because I do not deal in absolutes. Those who wish to express their theories in absolutes (i.e. saying all people with depression, headaches, cancer, seizures, irritability, etc. have a magnesium deficiency and would be cured if they only believed), are those who I adamantly oppose in my life because there is no room in life for those who wish to deal in absolutes.
Science does not deal with absolutes, only theory.
If you would only change your WORDING and suggest that people should think about supplementing magnesium rather than preying on people by suggesting quite openly that magnesium is a "cure-all" then I would leave you alone.
Until that day, I will oppose you every time you make a claim in absolute terms.
Good day.
Matt
--- On Sat, 5/22/10, Shan <surpriseshan2@aol.com> wrote:
From: Shan <surpriseshan2@aol.com>
Subject: [epilepsy] Re: The whole magnesium deficiency argument
To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:30 AM
You know if you used as much energy trying to find out the truth as you do making up your own reality , you would be amazed at the results. Magnesium does do all that and more. Why don't you try using transdermal magnesium and see is your headaches go away? or are you afraid of being proved wrong? For that matter, have you ever heard of an informed opinion? You might try it - maybe people will even respect you more. Plus at the least listening to you would be informative. I have posted here studies and have also posted places where anyone can find their own studes - those people whom are interested in having an informed opinion will check them out.
I can and have posted studies to support my allegations - why don't you check them out? I have purposely put the urls to where they can be found. Or is it that you have not done that because you are afraid that you might find out that you are wrong?
Or is it easier to have a closed mind? and to just make up realiity ?
Shan
--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, matthew ferguson <ferg1975@...> wrote:
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> Lizard,
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> You are incorrect that Shan does not make totalitarian arguments and I quote :"The anticonvulsants all deplete magnesium - depression is associated
> with magnesium deficiency. Get your magnesium levels up and you won't
> get depressed, won't have a lot of anziety and will sleep better. You
> will be less irritated as well as less aggressive. Magnesium is also
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> I don't know how you want me to chill out, my magnesium levels are fine and I am still depressed, my magnesium levels are fine and I still get headaches and migraines.
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> I am not disagreeing that a magnesium deficiency may cause problems, I am stating that Shan's claims that a magnesium deficiency is the root cause of all my problems is preposterous, and he does claim that magnesium is the primary source of all my symptoms, which is not only an insult to my intelligence, but more importantly:
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> Those of us who get really depressed and desperate continue to seek anything that will help us. I would hate to see someone on the end of their rope get sucked into this belief system and then be destroyed when it does not work.
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> Do you honestly want to be partly responsible for someone's demise all because you wish to tolerate someone who is claiming to have a "cure all" for all our problems.
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> I will not sit idly by, I will not chill out.
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> Katt
> --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Liz Welker <lizard110366@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [epilepsy] The whole magnesium deficiency argument
> To: epilepsy@yahoogroups.com
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