Friday, May 21, 2010

[epilepsy] Re: Seizures and depression

 

I am a social worker/therapist and my husband has both seizure disorder and depression seems to come along with it. I would like to think i have some experience under my belt when it comes to depression (and seizures)and although there are some that may benefit from magnesium supplements, it is a small number. I am very big on natural supplements but unfortunately for this population it is not always that easy. If it were that simple, that everyone has seizures due to a magnesium deficiency, then you would not need to post advertisements here and you would be a very rich man selling the stuff. I think it can be harmful to make bold statements like you are, when most with these issues are already going through so much emotionally. Being sensitive to others beliefs and what they are going through is necessary.
Heidi

--- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "Shan" <surpriseshan2@...> wrote:
>
> Depression can be alleviated by magnesium - this is not new information.
>
> George Eby had terrible depression and tried drugs but they did not help - you can read his story on his website. http://www.newtreatments.org/Hypomagnesia/ga/203
>
> Magnesium for treatment-resistant depression: A review and hypothesis
> George Eby
> SUMMARY - Sixty percent of cases of clinical depression are considered to be treatment-resistant depression (TRD).
> Magnesium-deficiency causes N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) coupled calcium channels to be biased towards opening, causing neuronal injury and neurological dysfunction, which may appear to humans
> as major depression. Oral administration of magnesium to animals led to anti-depressant-like effects that were comparable to those of strong anti-depressant drugs. Cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) magnesium has been found low in treatment-resistant suicidal depression and in patients that have attempted suicide.
> Brain magnesium has been found low in TRD using phosphorous nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy, an accurate means for measuring brain magnesium. Blood and CSF magnesium do not appear well
> correlated with major depression. Although the first report of magnesium treatment for agitated depression was published in 1921 showing success in 220 out of 250 cases, and there are modern case
> reports showing rapid terminating of TRD, only a few modern clinical trials were found. A 2008 randomized clinical trial showed that magnesium was as effective as the tricyclic anti-depressant imipramine
> in treating depression in diabetics and without any of the side effects of imipramine. Intravenous and oral magnesium in specific protocols have been reported to rapidly terminate TRD safely and without side effects. Magnesium has been largely removed from processed foods, potentially harming the brain.
> Calcium, glutamate and aspartate are common food additives that may worsen affective disorders. We hypothesize that – when taken together – there is more than sufficient evidence to implicate inadequate dietary magnesium as the main cause of TRD, and that physicians should prescribe magnesium for TRD.
> Since inadequate brain magnesium appears to reduce serotonin levels, and since anti-depressants have been shown to have the action of raising brain magnesium, we further hypothesize that magnesium
> treatment will be found beneficial for nearly all depressives, not only TRD.
> http://george-eby-research.com/html/magnesium-treatment-resistant-depression.pdf
>
> Depression
> http://www.newtreatments.org/depression
>
> Depression recovery with magnesium
> Many articles about magnesium and depression including "Hypothesis for Magnesium Depletion, Calcium and Glutamate Overload as Cause of most Major Depression and Related Mental Health Issues: A Review of the Neurobiochemistry, Animal and Human evidence with a Suggested Treatment Protocol by George Eby Research Institute which has 222 references
> http://george-eby-research.com/html/depression-anxiety.html
>
> Depression-Serotonin, which elevates moods, is dependent on Mg. A Mg-deficient brain is also more susceptible to allergens, foreign substances that can cause symptoms similar to mental illness
> from Book- The Miracle of Magnesium
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345445880/lymeinfo-20
>
> Depression & Adrenal Function
> Cortisol is one of the main hormones produced by the adrenal glands. Cortisol plays a key role in the regulation of blood sugar levels. Stressful conditions, however, cause the adrenals to overproduce cortisol, and when the adrenals are pushed into a relentless production of cortisol, they end up in a stressed condition. Once the adrenals become overworked and stressed, the body's ability
> to retain magnesium drops down, as reflected in a greater loss of magnesium through urinary excretion. For this reason, people with exhausted adrenals will often require more magnesium to maintain inner balance. Magnesium is also needed by the adrenals as a basic building block for the manufacturing of hormones.
> Since stressed adrenals are often a forerunner of depression and mood disorders, anything which supports adrenal function will help these conditions. Because magnesium supports adrenal function, it can and was indeed found to have an antidepressant effect. While further steps may be required to fully alleviate depressive states, magnesium's role in balancing the body is vital and it has
> been proven to greatly enhance the effect of other nutrients consumed and/or other steps undertaken. Without sufficient magnesium one cannot keep the adrenals in balance, and a loss of this balance can result in diabetes, hyper-excitability, nervousness, mental confusion and difficulty coping with simple day-to-day problems. Depressed and suicidal people often display inadequate levels of magnesium
> FROM http://www.mgwater.com/benes.shtml#depress
>
> Magnesium can help with energy, depression.
> v57, Better Nutrition for Today's Living, February 1995, p26(1).
> http://www.mgwater.com/articles.shtml#depression
>
> blessings
> Shan
>
> --- In epilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "Uggie" <ugmcginnis@> wrote:
> >
> > I know someone on here recently said they suffer from both seizures and
> > depression. May I ask what ur doctor prescribes for ur depression. My dd
> > is currently taking Keppra and her psychologist has her on Prozac for
> > depression and Abilify for her anxiety. He wants to change her meds - but
> > cant til I ask her Neuro what else she can take for the depression/anxiety
> > issues. Because of her health (seizures, debilitating migraines, depression
> > and anxiety) she tried to take her life by cutting herself a few wks back.
> > She stopped short of cutting herself when her little sister walked into the
> > room. She is in therapy weekly now because of this (has had the depression,
> > and anxiety issues for 2 yrs now). And I have an appt with her Neurologist
> > next Tuesday.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Uggie
> >
> > 
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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