Re: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours

Friday, August 10, 2012

Re: [fast5] Re: Moving the five hours

Nuts are the one food that for me, does NOT ever satiate. Once I was snacking on nuts, and gained 10 lbs in 3 weeks. So I hide the nuts and dole them out! It's good if they work for you though.

Eggs are the best for me, to calm my appetite. A close second though, is a Korean soy ferment called doenjang. It's a salty condiment that is supposed to be very good for you, and tasty. It's pretty high in protein, but also it has a lot of vitamins and who knows what that satisfies like few foods can. Some vitamins, like the B vitamins and vitamin K, are produced mainly by bacteria and yeast. One reason beer has been a stable in most cultures ... it's loaded with B! I think doenjang might have as much or more though. Easy base for making soup too.

Doenjang is rich in flavonoids and beneficial vitamins, minerals, and plant hormones (phytoestrogens) which are sometimes claimed to possess anticarcinogenic properties.^[1] In Korean traditional meals, the menu has concentrated on vegetables and rice, but doenjang, which is made of soybeans, has a great deal of lysine, an essential amino acid that rice lacks. Linoleic acid (53% of the fatty acids) and linolenic acid (8% of the fatty acids) have an important role in normal growth of blood vessels and prevention of blood vessel-related illness. Unlike miso, which is usually not boiled, doenjang's efficacy still exists after boiling, in dishes such as doenjang jjigae.^[2]

Doenjang is considered one of the essential sauces of authentic Korean cuisine. However, the condiment has historically been unknown outside of Korea, although recent international articles have resulted in an increase in its popularity. A 2007 Chinese article on the "Sauces of Korea" listed doenjang and gochujang as essential flavorings, and explored the origins of the condiments, particularly focusing on Sunchang County, where most Korean soy sauce is produced. The article pointed out that doenjangdoes not contain any artificial additives and in fact has healthy amounts of essential vitamins, such as vitamin C and vitamin B₁₂. The health benefits of doenjang are rumored to extend longevity, and this is illustrated by the fact that out of the 32,000 people in Sunchung county, eight are over 100 years old and many are over 90. The article was influential throughout China, resulting in many Chinese restaurants adding doenjang stew, modified slightly to Chinese tastes, to their menus shortly after publication. South Korea's JoongAng Ilbo covered this story in China on December 13, 2007.^[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doenjang

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:25 AM, bradbury_x <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks everybody for your replies!

I'm doing 2-7pm now which fits in with the evening eating pattern of my partner too. It's going pretty well although I'm lucky in that I don't find it hugely difficult to avoid food up until around 12pm.

Eating protein when you come off the fast is great advice. I've lost a lot of weight in the past by fasting, and noticed this back then. For me at least, pure protein is a sledgehammer when it comes to hunger.

I'm vegan so the only real choice (short of cooking some tofu) is nuts, although with my previous weight loss I also used to eat roasted redskin almonds.

Nuts and almonds are high in calories but it's worth remembering that they satiate the appetite like nothing else. If a 500 calorie packet of peanuts keeps me going until the main evening meal then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Nuts also have quite a bit of fibre too, especially if you can eat the skins, and I like the idea of being satiated on only a small physical quantity of food — it keeps my belly empty and my digestion works only a little. Therefore I feel more nimble.

The only other thing I'd say is that chewing sugar-free gum is fine for me although I need to do this anyway to avoid bad breath because of GERD syndrome, so I guess my stomach is typically churning anyway.