Saturday, October 9, 2010

Re: [fast5] OT A New Problem?

 

Since its OT I’ll try to make this my last post, but to me it is what you are representing and your heart while you are doing it.

So, for me, I could definitely use mangos.(although that might distract me a bit)

When in college we used koolaid and crackers. I was concentrating on what it was about so I honestly don’t even remember it being koolaid or noticing that it was koolaid.....(versus real grape juice)

I’ve taken communion lots of different ways and in lots of different settings but the point was what the elements represented, not as to what the elements actually consisted of.....

I do know the catholics believe differently about this though as in they believe it becomes the actual blood and body of Christ, not just representing it....

For me, when I read about it(in the Bible) for me, I understand that we want to remember what Christ did and that’s what taking communion does for me. I can’t forget and sometimes its very emotional to think about even.......that that was done for me. So that is what communion is all about to me so I could really do it with whatever was available, as long as I am able to make that represent that for me.....

So I guess my question for the Catholics would be (and by this I mean my question to the higher ups in the Catholic church deciding these things). If God is able to turn the elements into the actual blood and body of Christ, then wouldn’t God be big enough to turn whatever you had and why would it have to contain wheat?  But on another level I get that it traditionally did contain wheat, so that is probably where that declaration stems from........somehow.......

chantelle


On 10/6/10 1:51 PM, "Heather Twist" <HeatherTwist@gmail.com> wrote:


 
 
   


> Wow......i was surprised I guess about the catholic church deciding/declaring that. 
> That’s crazy to me......
> chantelle



It is surprising. They have come up with a compromise: a special low-gluten host. The compromise is interesting, because they go to such lengths to keep the wheat in it:

http://rye.patch.com/articles/church-ensures-parishioners-receive-a-holy-and-gluten-free-communion

There is some controversy as to whether the amount allowed is actually "low enough".

I expect the same kind of issue exists for wine: the Baptists and some other congregations use grape juice, because they are against alcohol (or have been traditionally). But I guess it wouldn't be right to use, say, mangoes, if that is what grows where you are.

It's interesting how important food is to religions in general. "Fasting" in general is very important too, and Ramadan provides an interesting window into what happens when people follow a lifestyle very similar to Fast-5 on a large-scale basis (although during Ramadan I hear there is way more feasting and socializing!).
 <http://rye.patch.com/articles/church-ensures-parishioners-receive-a-holy-and-gluten-free-communion>


On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Chantelle <chantelles@cox.net> wrote:



 
 
   



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