I used to be macrobiotic. We ate a lot of brown rice. A LOT. I liked it.
One of my teachers wrote in his book (about the importance of chewing) that if you chew brown rice long enough you get a spiritual high. My friend who was macrobiotic said she felt this, but I never did.
Now I don't eat that way anymore, I follow a paleo diet - no grains. I am surprised I don't miss rice: I don't crave it at all. I feel indifferent toward rice, grains, pasta, breads... I could care less. I only eat them once n a blue moon to be polite if I am visiting someone.
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Churyl Zeviar <churyl@...> wrote:
>
> I just finished a book called, 'Fiber Menace' which says that for most
> of human time, we have had a bacteria based diet. Now parts of the world
> are in this new era of a fiber based diet, and it is wreaking havoc on
> many people's systems. He says brown rice is actually too fibrous, and
> white rice is better. Hmmm...
>
> Although, in the book, 'Sugar Shock' or 'Sugar Blues' - can't remember
> which - the author says that communities who switched to white rice this
> century started having a lot more health problems... Double hmmm...
>
> I personally am not eating grains, and feel much better. But my partner
> and son miss rice sorely. Things that make you go hmmm...
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 9:37 am, foxchyck wrote:
> > Heather, could you remind me again (because it's too early in the
> > morning to use search :P)...wasn't there something about the white rice
> > you use that wasn't precisely like most rice out there. Was it that it
> > *wasn't* enriched?
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:41 AM, barnabywalker
> >> <barnabywalker@>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > With all the studying you do, I'm surprised you don't know "why"
> >> the high
> >> > carb white rice works. But hey, not everyone is willing to
> >> experiment, as
> >> > you, growing "flying" chickenfeed. ;-)
> >> >
> >>
> >> LOL! Yeah, I have a VERY tolerant family.
> >>
> >> I do have one theory about why this diet works. It has to do with the
> >> appestat and food predictivity (I don't know if that's a word, so
> >> maybe I
> >> made it up).
> >>
> >> Rats don't get fat normally, even when you way overfeed them and they
> >> don't
> >> get any exercise. The food just sits and gets moldy. To do "fat rats"
> >> experiments, you need a special breed of rat.
> >>
> >> But here is the deal: the rat gets the same rat chow, day after day.
> >> The rat
> >> knows exactly how much to eat, because it is THE SAME FOOD. If they
> >> are
> >> given separate foods, the rat eats a bit of this and a bit of that,
> >> to get
> >> exactly the right carb/fat/protein ratio, and also according to other
> >> nutrients it needs. That little rat brain knows what to eat.
> >>
> >> However, if you don't feed the rat "real" food ... you give it a
> >> protein
> >> shake, say ... then the rat can't choose what to eat. In general, it
> >> will
> >> eat just the right amount of protein shake though, day after day.
> >>
> >> If the protein shake doesn't have enough of one nutrient, then the
> >> rat might
> >> eat too many calories though ... in order to get that nutrient.
> >>
> >> And here is the kicker: if you CHANGE the protein shake, then the rat
> >> eats
> >> too much or too little for a couple of days, until its brain figures
> >> out how
> >> much to eat. It can't predict, based on taste, what are the contents
> >> of the
> >> shake.
> >>
> >> So with human beings ... in most times and places, people had
> >> something we
> >> call a "food culture" or a "cuisine". Most families had, say, 10-12
> >> recipes
> >> that they cooked a LOT ... roast chicken on Sunday, say, or baked
> >> potatoes
> >> and steak, or rice and beans. Or whatever. But people's brains knew
> >> what was
> >> in the food, because it was the same food. And when Mom baked you a
> >> cookie
> >> ... it was Mom's cookie recipe that she always made, and your brain
> >> knew how
> >> many to eat.
> >>
> >> Also, Mom made meals in such a way that they filled you UP. She
> >> didn't want
> >> to waste food, or have you whining for more in an hour or two. She
> >> probably
> >> didn't think about this much, just, tended to make stuff that made
> >> you full
> >> and happy.
> >>
> >> Now, what happens today with food?
> >>
> >> First, it's not Mom making it. It's some food company. And that food
> >> company
> >> is not at all interested in filling you UP. They want you to eat
> >> LOTS. And
> >> they do tests to see: how many cookies will people eat? They tend to
> >> choose
> >> the recipes where testers eat LOTS of cookies. I don't really blame
> >> MSG
> >> here: I think it's more the case that Mom used lots of eggs and some
> >> butter
> >> and milk and such so Mom's cookies had plenty of nutrients and protein
> >> (because again: she wanted you to be full). Cookie companies don't
> >> use those
> >> ingredients so much: they are expensive, and also, they fill people
> >> up, so
> >> people don't eat so many of them.
> >>
> >> Second, your brain can't predict what is in the food. The food
> >> companies are
> >> all different, and they change their recipes whenever they feel like
> >> it. Two
> >> snack bars can look and taste alike and be wildly different in calorie
> >> content. It's even worse with stuff like hamburgers and fries.
> >>
> >> So your average Asian meal consists of rice, plus some toppings for
> >> the
> >> rice. You can eat more rice, or less rice. More toppings, or less
> >> toppings.
> >> Usually there is a choice of toppings at each meal.
> >>
> >> What happens? First, your body knows what "rice" is. It can predict
> >> the
> >> calorie content really easily. It knows exactly how much of it to eat.
> >> Second, you can change the meal content according to what you NEED to
> >> eat,
> >> rather than according to "serving size".
> >>
> >> So when I say my family tends to eat "one chicken thigh" worth of
> >> chicken
> >> ... it's not because that's what I tell them to eat. That is just my
> >> observation. I serve vegies, rice, meat, sauces. They eat what they
> >> feel
> >> like eating. If I cook one huge yummy steak per person ... they still
> >> only
> >> eat part of one steak. And they only eat about a cup of rice. It's
> >> actually
> >> pretty consistent. But sometimes my daughter will just pig out and
> >> eat a
> >> huge amount of one thing. She stays pretty much the same weight
> >> always.
> >>
> >> Also, "gelatinized" starches act differently in your body than "dry"
> >> starches. I'm not sure what all the differences are, but part of it is
> >> bacteriological. If you feed a horse dry oats, too many of them, the
> >> horse
> >> will die. The bacteria overgrow and the horse gets acidosis. But,
> >> horses
> >> race faster if they get more oats, so they do "extruded" oats, where
> >> the
> >> oats are gelatinized, kind of like oat spaghetti. Those don't kill the
> >> horse.
> >>
> >> Steamed rice is gelatinized. Rice crackers are not. So eating steamed
> >> rice
> >> with a meal makes sense to me.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think I'll have to go back to a more controlled experiment of white
> >> rice
> >> > and salmon, being sure that white rice is the only source of carbs.
> >> It
> >> > doesn't make sense that high carbs of white rice would be good, but
> >> it
> >> > hasn't at first glance logically made sense that Fats are good for
> >> us,
> >> > either.
> >> >
> >>
> >> You might want to stick in some good greens too, and a
> >> garlic/ginger/whatever sauce. You body wants the stuff that is in
> >> greens
> >> too, I think.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the reports on your experiments, I'm going back to read
> >> more of
> >> > your blog.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I hope it doesn't warp your mind too badly :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Barnaby
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Heather Twist
> >> http://eatingoffthefoodgrid.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >
> >
>
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