Tuesday, October 26, 2010

[fast5] Re: Dealing with Hunger??

 

>I totally agree that wild is better, but it's not true that wild meat is low in Omega 6's. The ratio is better, but it's mainly that the wild meat has more Omega 3's. And grass-fed meat still has 2 to 3 times more Omega 6 than Omega 3:

hilly – What I'm saying is wild or grass fed meats are leaner. Less SFAs and higher Omega 3 fats than factory animals. Again, if you have a cut of deer meat, there's very little fat which means less Omega 6 and SFAs.

> Interestingly, diet has little effect on the proportion of omega-6 fatty acids, however the method of feeding did significantly alter the omega-3 content of fed beef.

hilly – not sure what you mean by this as diet has 100% impact on O3 v. O6 fatty acids. Whether human or cow, a high consumption of grains (in our case, processed especially) will drive SFAs and O6.

> I don't personally think the Omega 6 ratio is actually the issue here: I think a lot of our current problem has to do with eating too many of the oxidant kinds of foods, too little seafood, and a wheat/corn based diet (as opposed to rice/millet etc). Also the fact that what is sold as "beef" in a hamburger is a kind of weird chemical slurry created from old dairy cows. Too few vegetables. And eating all day long ..

hilly - I'm not saying ratio…I'm saying amounts—volume.

Also, the foods you list aren't "oxidant" foods, per se, until they're exposed to certain chemical actions. They're more acidic, but, not oxidant.

But corn and wheat both contain far higher levels of O6 than O3s which is why they're criticized so heavily by certain dietary circles. Again the human diet for thousands of years…before migrating to other parts of the globe…and morphing our food sources was probably bugs, small animals, fish, nuts, roots and very, very low sugar/high fiber fruits.

Just like grains didn't become a *predominant* part of our diet until 10,000 yrs ago (they have been found in caves, campfires and the digestive systems of prehistoric humans), neither did a diet like the Inuit or Masai. With the Masai, animals didn't start becoming domesticated until around the same time as humans turned to agriculture. And the Inuit didn't move to those areas of the world until around 1 - 3,000 BC, if that, and adopt to the local climate/diet. (But consider this: history's even proven the Spartans and Roman soldiers conquered the world on grains--they couldn't carry or bring enough meat to feed their armies, but, there was plenty of grain that could be hauled along to feed the masses. So those ripped abs of Sparta were probably the result of chewing on barley and oats...)

Our diets for eons were probably closer to that of the apes. Again, just head out for a few weeks in the wild and try to eat what the "paleo" people claim is our original diet. Won't happen. You'll be subsiding on bugs, rabbit, roots, fruits if available and the occasional deer or fish if you learn how to kill or catch one. In fact, in the morning, you're looking for water and the closest thing available to shove in your mouth, which is usually food that can't run: plants. Quite similar to what the apes consume.

And we (people) can generate oxidization by doing things like simply working out. Food's just one culprit.

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