For me, I find concentrating on a longer fasting window makes me feel deprived but if I think of shortening my eating window then I feel virtuous!
My window is 5pm to 10pm, however on 3 days a week I don't finish work until 5.30pm and get home about 6pm so I open my window once I'm home and settled, about 630pm. On 2 days a week I finish work at 4pm but then go straight over to ride and clean my horse so don't get home until about 7pm so open my window then. On the weekend I open my window at 5pm or occasionally a bit earlier depending on what we are doing. I always close my window by 10pm as I go to bed 10 to 1030pm.
Anyway what I'm trying to say is that for me knowing that 5 days I week I don't use the whole of window makes me feel good, even though I know I'm not supposed to just eat the whole 5 hours anyway, but knowing that I've "lasted" for longer than I have to is a positive thought for me.
Niki
--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "barnabywalker" <barnabywalker@...> wrote:
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> I follow the one meal a day is enough and don't believe in an Eating window, I concentrate on the importance of a long Fasting window. As soon as you finish your meal you're off to the start of your 19-23 hour fasting period that much sooner. Don't be afraid to eat a bit more than a "normal" person's meal since it is going to hold you all day. You'll find that your total calorie consumption will be less than the 3 meals a day crowd, even with a large meal. Also, look more for a reduction of belly fat than weight. It will keep your spirits up when the scale seems frozen.
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> The more I study ketogenic diets http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-ketogenic-diet (it shows agreement with Taubes and Eades), I see where avoiding carbs and filling caloric needs with animal fats and sufficient protein is what to eat during that meal. Fats are neutral regarding creation of insulin, part of proteins does create insulin, and carbohydrates really turn on the fat-creating hormone, insulin. It's the best verification that all calories are not equal.
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> Barnaby
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> --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Sloate" <cshalm@> wrote:
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> > Just a quick word (in the middle of this very intellectual hunter-gatherer discussion) to say that I have now done Fast-5 for 12 days in a row, and I CANNOT BELIEVE how easy it is to do. I have not had a single lapse, though I guarantee that I've been eating food during my window that is probably not of the highest quality (grin).
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> > What I've been finding is that if I eat a good-sized meal when my window opens, typically I am hardly hungry or not hungry at all at the end of my window, and on about half of my days I don't bother to eat anything after the main meal (usually around 2 - 3 pm).
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> > I read somewhere on this list months ago that we should be breaking our fast with protein, and I try to do that every day. I think it helps.
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> > I've only lost about 2 pounds (though someone here pointed out after my first report that generally speaking we don't lose much for the first two weeks??? Whoever said it, thank you -- I'm grateful for that! And has that been everyone else's experience? Or did you lose a lot faster when you first started?)
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> > I really think I can do this easily and safely for the rest of my life -- can't believe how much energy I have, how little effort this takes and how little thought (except for wanting to eat good food with lots of nutrients during my window). But the internal debate about "Oh, I'd love to eat that" -- if it's outside my window, I don't eat it. Period.
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> > I can honestly see how it's easy to do this even during the holidays.
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> > I have a challenging period coming up. Starting next Monday (November 1st), I'm participating (for the 6th time) in Nanowrimo, National Novel Writing Month, an insane marathon to write 50,000 words of an original novel in 30 days. It's a wonderful experience, but typically you eat BAD FOOD during those 30 days, as your stress levels can really rise. However, my plan is to keep on keeping on, and I'll continue to report in.
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> > Fortunately, I've also told this to two friends, who are doing it along with me and are just as happy with it as I am. I had lunch with one of them two days ago. We met at a local restaurant we both liked. She already had ordered and gotten her meal but waited for me to get mine before starting. And -- typical Fast-5er -- before she ate her first bite, she looked at her watch!
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> > I couldn't help laughing -- I knew why because I do it every day myself.
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> > Now that I'm comfortably acclimated to this I DO NOT intend to go off again. I got into the rhythm of this last year but unfortunately allowed myself to drop off and regretted it. Don't want any more regrets, and I'm so glad to hear from veterans who've been doing it for years.
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> > One more thing -- I took my 15-year-old son to a pediatric GI doctor yesterday and told him about Fast 5. I was wondering if putting my son on it would help his issues -- he had a four-month-long bout with vomiting last summer and the same thing just recurred about 2 weeks ago (he's no longer vomiting -- it ended after 5 days -- but because of the earlier thing, I was worried.)
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> > The doctor gave us a diet for him to be on -- listing foods he can have and foods he should avoid. Colin has already embraced the diet and is willing to live with the restrictions, but I also would like to try him on Fast 5. The doctor didn't say I couldn't, though he didn't explicitly say I could.
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> > I think it would significantly help his hunger levels, and he has a lot of weight to lose, so I think it could help there too.
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> > All comments are welcome!
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> > Susan
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