Re: [fast5] Re: Calories during eating window

Saturday, January 5, 2013

Re: [fast5] Re: Calories during eating window

Wow, what a brilliant post Heather! I'm saving that for future reference!

Thank you :-)
Brenda

On 5/01/2013 8:56 p.m., Heather Twist wrote:

I'd also add that there isn't really a lot of data about any ideal calorie range. The problem is that "calories" can be used in many different ways by the body. It's really amazing if you look at the book "What I Eat". You'll see the actual food a person eats on a typical day, and the caloric breakdown. What is interesting is that except in the extreme cases, there isn't a lot of connection between the calories and the health or size of the person.

This makes more sense if you remember that some 30 percent of your food never gets absorbed at all. From what is absorbed, the body can make choices like "raise the metabolism" to use up calories, or slow down the metabolism to conserve calories. Fat in particular seems to be a substance that the body can decide to ignore, in the gut, and not process it. Proteins are broken down into amino acids, but the excess amino acids can go into urine. Bacteria break down a fair bit of your food into stuff like butyrate, which has calories but is mostly used by your gut tissue to make it healthy.

Anyway, the role of the appestat is to help you make food decisions such that the right stuff goes into your mouth, in the right quantity. If your appestat is working correctly, it will make you way less hungry when you are overweight. Part of the point of Fast-5 is to get the appestat working correctly again. That said, it might take awhile for your body to adjust.

Some foods do seem do "fool" the appestat, and esp. there may be some foods that do this worse for some people. For me that is mainly nuts ... I just don't have a "stop button" for nuts, so I just don't keep them around much.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Phil Voelker <mail4pvoelker@yahoo.com> wrote:

As always, some good advice from Ms. Twist.

Vee, your initial question wasn't about carbs, but about calories. That's impossible to answer without knowing things like weight, height, lifestyle activity, etc.

I'll repeat the advice I've given on here a couple of times, because I think it's simple and effective - I got it from a Men's Health magazine many years ago. to get a good "general calorie target," just take the weight you want to be at in pounds (not the weight you are today), and multiply it by ten. For an average person who doesn't schedule exercise, it's a good rule of thumb. If you exercise vigorously or lead a highly active life, increase the multiplier for every hour of 'real exercise' after the first one.

For instance, I'm 6'4" with a lot of muscle (and fat, haha), and want to be around 210 pounds. 210x10 would equal 2100 calories per day. However, I lift weights and do cardio on alternate days of the week. Being that it's not all constant exercise, I'd say 4-5 hours per week. My goal is fat loss, so I use 4 hours per week. Ignoring that first hour of exercise, I add 3 to the multiplier, so 210pounds x 13 = 2420 calories per day. Now, one of the benefits of being as tall as I am is that I can reduce that calorie number and not starve, so I generally try to make high-quality food choices and stay under 2000 per day.

Hope this helps - cheers!

Phil

From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [fast5] Re: Calories during eating window

Vegetarian, or vegan? If you do eggs, eggs are about the best food EVER for everything. And there are good studies indicating that eggs are great for weight loss ... they have substances in them that are really good at regulating appetite. Plus the egg yolk has fats and vitamins that are difficult to get from vegetables. Whey protein has similar features.

If you are concerned about "factory eggs", check out one of your local farmers and check for happy chickens. We have a couple of dozen here, and they are happy and healthy. Very good for the ecosystem too: they eat our kitchen scraps and also those of some other families. Some farmers are gathering kitchen scraps from restaurants or grocery stores. The chickens produce good manure and outstanding eggs.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:20 AM, vee_dempsey <vee_dempsey@yahoo.in> wrote:

Hey thanks all of you for your advice. You guys are such sweethearts and take time out of your lives to reply. Thanks again!
On the low- carbing, I am a vegetarian , so my options are pretty much limited for a low carb diet. Any ideas out there for a low-carb diet on fast-5 ?
For all you fast-5 ers, I use an iPhone app called the 'iFasters' which helps in reminding me about the start and end of fast times and also helps in tracking the progress, using body weight.
I feel so lucky to have stumbled on this great diet and lifestyle. I have already spread the good word with friends and family. Some were easy converts and the others want to see how it goes with me and then try it..:-)

Cheers,
Vee

--- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, Robert Persson wrote:
>
> Hungry two hours after the window closes? This sounds like a blood sugar
> swing. I'm not a fan of extreme low carbing, but try to keep your carbs
> down, maybe eating a little more fat, and go easy on fast carbs such as
> sugar , white potatoes and white rice.
> However, since you are just two days in, if you like the way you eat, just
> go with it and stand the hunger after the window closes, it will most
> likely go away when the body adapts to your new way of eating.
>
> /Rob.
>
>
>
> 2013/1/2 vee_dempsey
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I am a newbie and I am from India. I am just 2 days in the diet and
> > feeling good about it. I just wanted to know , how much calories is too
> > much during the feeding window? I have a 2-7 PM window and I am sometimes
> > hungry 2 hours after my window closes. Which makes me wonder I am not
> > eating enough during the window , hence the question. Please help!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vee
> >
> >
> >
>

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