You're welcome.
On 22 September 2011 16:47, RickS <no3rdseat@gmail.com> wrote:
David-
Thank you SO much for not typing "of" after the word "myriad". ;)
-Rick> I don't have any professional expertise to dispute these references (so I
> won't), but my own experience is that, in excess, food of any category (and
> I eat, or have eaten most of them in my time) will cause me to gain weight.
> This is a complex area, and it can get very confusing when the myriad
> physiological and psychological aspects of seeking or shunning particular
> foods get mixed together. I would only remark that it seems on the face of
> it a very difficult proposition to carry out a rigorously controlled
> experiment capable, at the same time, of discriminating the specific effect
> of limiting specific food types (e.g. carbohydrates) from the overall energy
> economy (including, of course, output). It is also a common-sense
> observation that people worldwide and throughout history have been capable
> both of sustaining life and health, and controlling body composition (or
> not) with an almost inconceivably wide variety of food sources. In view of
> these aspects I personally find it more reliable and effective to focus on
> overall energy balance as a first priority and select food types to choice
> and taste as a secondary, albeit important, one. I should emphasise that I
> intend these comments to apply only to the question of weight control, and
> not to other health issues where choice of food types may have specific
> relevance.
>
> David
>> On 21 September 2011 19:29, Barnaby Walker <barnabywalker@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > And those of us in the Low Insulin school, don't follow Calorie In Calorie
> > Out.
> >
> > The Body doesn't boil down to a simple Physics problem of fueling a
> > furnace. The Hormone Insulin enters the picture, and affects Fat loss.
> >
> > Fasting places the body in a low insulin state.
> >
> > Low Carb diets work for the same reason.
> >
> > http://www.garytaubes.com/2010/12/calories-fat-or-carbohydrates/
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akz9B-zMS-4
> >
> > Barnaby
> >
> >
> > --- In fast5@yahoogroups.com, David Nyman <david@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would certainly endorse what Phil says about calories-in, calories-out.
> > > Despite observations others have made about "good" or "bad" food
> > categories
> > > - and I won't dispute that these concerns may be relevant to other health
> > > issues - when it comes to weight loss energy balance is by far the most
> > > important factor. If weight is not going down over a reasonable period,
> > > then either less food must go in, more energy must be expended, or both.
> > > All the properly controlled research studies (crucially, those not
> > > dependent on self-reporting) have confirmed an almost straight-line
> > > relationship between energy balance and weight. Of course, this shouldn't
> > > really surprise anybody, as the converse would violate basic laws of
> > physics
> > > (like perpetual motion!). So as Phil says, "whatever you want" doesn't
> > > translate to "as much as you want". To put it another way, if you are
> > both
> > > wise and fortunate, you can have anything you want, but not everything
> > you
> > > want.
> > >
> > > Fast 5 isn't a magic bullet that robs food of its calorific value. Rather
> > > it's a strategy for limiting calorie intake based on the observation that
> > > the fewer opportunities we have to eat, the less often we can fall prey
> > to
> > > temptation. But a five-hour eating window (or even less) is no barrier to
> > > the capacities of a dedicated glutton (speaking as one myself) and hence
> > a
> > > degree of control is still necessary, especially when there is still
> > weight
> > > to be shed. Don't forget - unfair though it may feel - that as we lose
> > > weight we need fewer calories than before to maintain our slimmed-down
> > > bodies. Even now, when I have been at my target weight for years, and
> > > exercising typically for an hour a day, if I lapse into eating as much as
> > I
> > > (sometimes) want, the pounds begin to creep back. But, even though I
> > still
> > > have to practice a degree of limitation, IF still works for me because my
> > > daily four or five-hour window still feels more satisfyingly like a
> > "feast"
> > > than a larger number of calories spread over the whole day.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > On 21 September 2011 16:06, Beth <beth@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My husband has been doing fast 5 for about a year now, primarily to
> > lose
> > > > weight (he is in good health otherwise). Weight loss has stopped
> > completely.
> > > > He lost 30 pounds over the first 6 months, then nothing. Now he has
> > actually
> > > > gained back 5 pounds. he needs to lose another 50 pounds.
> > > >
> > > > He has eaten outside his window maybe 3 to 5 times the entire year,
> > that's
> > > > it. His window is early in the day, he has tried to change it but been
> > > > unsuccessful due to business lunches etc, and whereas it used to be
> > easy, he
> > > > now finds himself hungry in the evenings, although he doesn't give in
> > and
> > > > eat. He doesn't eat particularly healthy, but one of the things that
> > > > attracted him to this lifestyle was that he could eat whatever he
> > wants. He
> > > > gets very little exercise also, but I can guarantee you that would be
> > the
> > > > most diffcult thing for him to change.
> > > >
> > > > He is so frustrated with hunger and lack of weight loss, I told him I
> > would
> > > > ask you guys for any ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Beth
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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