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totally agree, what he's doing now isn't what made PRINCE

not even what he did in the 90's

It was For U - Batman

Even the rude behaviour on the Band Stand, till this day that is classic RUDE boy and it was a planned thing, messing with the idea of stardom, Dick Clark got it a bit later too

the 70's & 80's lended that kind of open bahaviour, and he wasn't doing things a lot of other rock stars weren't doing.

He also helped other 'black' artist to break out of that defining box of being a 'black artist' your an artist, that comes from the soul and the soul isn't racial

--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Spooky Juice <theblackmuzik@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Spooky Juice <theblackmuzik@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Prince-4ever] Re: prince's speech
To: Prince-4ever@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 5:14 PM

I heard that, fam. I may need counseling 2 stop arguing with my peeps over the genius. But even they were shocked when I didn't get angry after the junk they were talking. I loved his speech & just his presence overall. It's just that itty bitty part threw me off. He was referring 2 the young artists out there in saying that they didn't have 2 make the same mistakes. If it was personal, he shouldn't have any reason 2 say that 2 the artists out there. Because he is VERY guarded about his personal life & no one would have a clue what he meant. I'm more than sure that the young artists know next 2 zero about P's private life. So it wouldn't have made any sense 4 the genius 2 say that. So by him not being more specific, it opened up a lot of drawn conclusions. ..including dissing what made him a rich icon. If it weren't 4 his younger days, he wouldn't have been on stage receiving this honor.....or his induction in2 the Rock N' Roll H.O.F. & other honors.

But even with his debatable statement, dude is the definition of GREAT!!! It was SO cool just 2 see him. And I'm sure that he'll say that it was good 2 b seen.
Mike
--- In Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com, "~*\[\[PFL\] \]*~" <qaidsharif@. ..> wrote:
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> Interesting enough that Prince is so used to being cryptic that sometimes I believe that if and when he speaks to someone like you or I, he may seems a little over your head.
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> It's like when my wife and I met him, he didn't say anything until I said we named our son after him and then he replied "Oh, please change it" and kinda rolled his eyes and smiled.
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> I too agree that he should have been more simple and plain with his speech. I don't think anybody got what he was saying save just perhaps Bria, Mayte, Mani or someone who's spent an extensive amount of time with him. I'm the point now where I could care less what anyone thinks save "us" on the Yahoo! Groups and some members of some of the Prince Fan Forums I'm a member of. I am so used to defending him that it makes me look like a fanatic. Which I am hardcore and everyone that knows me knows that, if I allow them in my "inner circle", so to speak. I thought P's speech was very humble and direct to the point. It sounded like he was talking to us and himself. It kind of reminded me how sometimes I've heard my parents say, don't make the same mistakes I have. It's in the same "vein". I do not feel he was talking about the "music" he may have been talking about his business decisions or perhaps things he said in the moment of passion about this or that. I
> believe he is in "full control" when it comes to interviews and speeches. He always has had some form of control but, he is a master of his own destiny and not many artist can boast what he can.
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> From: Spooky Juice theblackmuzik@ ...
> To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 1:21:16 AM
> Subject: [Prince-4ever] Re: prince's speech
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> U all know what? I was hoping that P would have made it plain & get deeper on what he meant by that. If he's talking about his music, I am confused. Why? Because from day 1, this genius had a positive message generally in his music. He may have took an abstract way in delivering his message. But it was positive nonetheless. And is his past works & per4mances were "mistakes", his "mistakes" sure made him who he is 2day. Not 2 mention, made him crazy RICH! And pretty much influenced about a billion artists...myself included.
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> And my family members & a few of my friends started attacking him after that statement. Which made me wish that he would've explained it in detail even more. They started saying stuff like "he should be talking about his mistakes on YouTube & that Hip Hop crap instead of dissing on his career!" I couldn't argue or defend his statement because I, myself didn't get where he was coming from. It did kinda made it seem like he was discrediting his marvelous and, in my opinion, his BEST work & per4mances in his "wild" younger days. Prince ALWAYS had a positive message. Maybe he was misunderstood. But that didn't mean it was negative. I wish he NEVER said that statement. As an artist, I would LOVE 2 make those so-called "mistakes" that he did.
> Mike
> --- In Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com, Tyrone Anderson gemini072@ .> wrote:
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> > Totally agree with U
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> > --- On Mon, 6/28/10, andrÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â©a w india412@ wrote:
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> > From: andrÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â©a w india412@
> > Subject: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
> > To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 2:38 PM
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> > Ã‚
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> > after thinking about it i have to disagree w/ him when he said he made mistakes. anything he considered a mistake was a learning experience that was need for growth and understanding. grow, live, love. prince u are so loved!!!
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Your right Mike those 3 did control the media not the other way around, that's interesting.

that's why in 2009 all 3 were still super huge

--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Spooky Juice <theblackmuzik@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Spooky Juice <theblackmuzik@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Prince-4ever] Re: prince's speech
To: Prince-4ever@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 5:33 PM

U are so right, fam. In a lot of ways, although not in all ways, those GREAT artists controlled the media & not the other way around. In other words, they did things their way in regards 2 their face time, per4mance time & interviewing time. The media tried so hard 2 break them down & tear down their walls. But if it happened, it was on Prince, M.J. or Madonna's terms. That's SUPER rare.
Mike
--- In Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com, "~*\[\[PFL\] \]*~" <qaidsharif@. ..> wrote:
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> Exactly ... How many artist do you or any of us know of that writes the same style lyrics they wrote when they first came out? Not many ... Madonna, Prince and MJ all were on the cutting edge with some music and lyrical content and now they can just sit back and write at will what they want to express about what they've learned over the years and what they experience over the years AND who they've experienced it "with" ...
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> Peace, Love & Light [& Stay Funky] ...
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> From: Funken Stein funken_stein@ ...
> To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 3:46:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
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> I really really love Prince and his music but its kinda funny that he said "I was wild back in the day and dont make the mistakes I made" Its easy to say that when the risque freaky music he did became the financial foundation so he could explore his take chances with the music he made in his later days. Most artists do that. Come out raunchy and shocking to bring attention to themselves and get deep and spiritual once they make thier millions.
> But its cool tho. Its called growth and maturity
> --- On Wed, 6/30/10, ~*[[PFL]]*~ qaidsharif@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> >From: ~*[[PFL]]*~ qaidsharif@yahoo. com>
> >Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
> >To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 3:07 PM
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> >"is" ... "is" one of the few artist still making music ...
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> >Peace, Love & Light [& Stay Funky] ...
> >http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TheFloridaNPG/
> >http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PurpleMusicMansi on/
> >http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Live_4_Love_ Minneapolis/
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> From: ~*[[PFL]]*~ qaidsharif@yahoo. com>
> >To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 10:32:04 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
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> >True ... True ... That's one of the things that had me become a lifelong fan of Prince's. He was one of the few artist that was still making albums. There was a constant. The on-line communities are usually communicating day to day but, when our man does something or has something "special" happen. The sites get buzzin' ... LoL
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> >Peace, Love & Light [& Stay Funky] ...
> >http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TheFloridaNPG/
> >http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PurpleMusicMansi on/
> >http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Live_4_Love_ Minneapolis/
> >NPG Member 4 Life ... [Live 4 Love]
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> From: Tyrone Anderson gemini072@yahoo. com>
> >To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 7:05:25 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
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> >lol
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> >and even that ... I mean you see more than that on a tame beach
> >the body is not evil
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> >If every musician or artist was the same, we would have boring music and a boring world
> >and if Prince of For U Prince Dirty Mind Controversy 1999 Purple Rain ATWIAD Parade etc etc didn't happen we would most likely not have these Prince fan groups and yahoo groups and we most likely would not be talking about the BET tribute of Prince cause there would be none
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> >--- On Tue, 6/29/10, ~*[[PFL]]*~ qaidsharif@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> >>From: ~*[[PFL]]*~ qaidsharif@yahoo. com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
> >>To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >>Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 3:45 PM
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> >>Right, I can agree with that too Ty. I feel like going home and watchin' the performance and speech again so I can get a better understanding of perhaps what I thought he said. P knows he's a Leader in the music business and what he does sets the tone for the artist to follow. It's not like he exposed himself on stage or in public besides the but-less pants ... LoL
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> >>Peace, Love & Light [& Stay Funky] ...
> >>http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ TheFloridaNPG/
> >>http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PurpleMusicMansi on/
> >>http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Live_4_Love_ Minneapolis/
> >>NPG Member 4 Life ... [Live 4 Love]
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> From: Tyrone Anderson gemini072@yahoo. com>
> >>To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >>Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 1:59:01 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
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> >>Well I like what you said, And anything I might comment about isn't 'negative'
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> >>but I think when his reference to his wilder younger days was connected to mistakes he made and well as saying 'you don't have to do what I did.
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> >>For all I know, Alicia crawling on the piano being sexy promted that.
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> >>So to me he's talking about his what he did as an artist. Not what he did in his personal life.
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> >>Yes we've all made mistakes, but me not drinking enough water is a mistake totally different from me not taking a risk with my art work or censoring it.
> >>
> >>I made a mistake last week and tried to cut my own hair, it turned out good except for a little bald spot in the front. That's a different kind of mistake from allowing someone in authority on the job to get away with singling me out and making me change my hours bypassing Human Resourses.
> >>
> >>I think he was mostly talking about certain onstage behaviour, because of what was said in the same sentence.
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> >>The fact that when he said something about his wilder days people applauded. They loved it.
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> >>Overall though I loved his speech, Prince is my man, I was totally proud for him, embaressed that he had to hear Purple Rain crapped on by Trey Songz
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> >>--- On Tue, 6/29/10, Lan <diamonds_n_pearls67 @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >>>From: Lan <diamonds_n_pearls67 @yahoo.com>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
> >>>To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 9:52 AM
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> >>>I don't think he meant for us to put too much weight into this "mistakes" comment. Of course, from his own personal viewpoint, he HAS made mistakes. But which one of us has not? I like to think that what he was saying is that now that he has matured and taken his journey that brought him to where he is today, he can look back and see that maybe some things could have been handled differently. ...I think he was just offering some "think about what actions you take" advice to anyone willing to listen....I don't think he was being way too critical of himself..... our own individual journeys make us who we are today, but woudn't you also agree that if you might have thought a little harder about a particular event in your life, you might have done it differently? I think he was just coming from that direction... .a direction of hope and positivity.. ..and yes, he gave a grand compliment to our musicians of the future saying
> >>> that he felt music was in good hands....and I think he sincerely meant that....I also think that he's just wanting some of the younger musicians to really think about their choices and their directions.. ..I wasn't offended or taken back by his comment....I can't say I agree that he's made mistakes, but nobody knows what's inside that amazing head of his and what thoughts are prompting him to say that...so obviously it was something HE felt compelled to share....I liked the speech....it showed his grace, his intelligence, his compassion, his positivity, his heart, his humanity.... .I just stand back with amazement when it comes to this man!! He never ceases to amaze or impress!!!
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> >>>Stay Safe, Stay Happy and Continue to Find Reasons to Smile!!!!
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> >>>--- On Mon, 6/28/10, Asante Creations Asante24@gmail. com> wrote:
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> >>>>From: Asante Creations Asante24@gmail. com>
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Prince-4ever] prince's speech
> >>>>To: Prince-4ever@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>>Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:56 PM
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> >>>>I guess it depends on which mistakes he was talking about...that crap with Warner Bros wasn't cool...but it was the norm back in the day. Now looking back..he set the stage for ownership and rights for musicians. As always, he spearheaded/ blazed the way for others to follow. He sounded like a proud big brother when he said that music is in good hands. I don't recall ever seeing him that emotional before. Just love him!!
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> >>>>On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:38 PM, andrÃƒÂ©a w india412@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>after thinking about it i have to disagree w/ him when he said he made mistakes. anything he considered a mistake was a learning experience that was need for growth and understanding. grow, live, love. prince u are so loved!!!
> >>>>>
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> >>>>--
> >>>>Much Love,
> >>>>Many More Blessings,
> >>>>Christine
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