Okay, due to the facts that I'm a) a total dork, and b) mildly inebriated, I found this on the web. The whole article was hysterical to me, but to some it could be offensive so I'll not bother with the link:
Communion wafers, called Hosts by Catholics, are essentially matzoh: a paste of water and wheat flour mixed together and baked before it has a chance to rise. It's not unreasonable to use matzoh as a guide: 110 calories per ounce of matzoh is probably close to 110 calories per ounce of Hosts. (Bonus facts: Hosts are available in white or wheat, as well as gluten-free for those with celiac disease.) Amazon and other sites quote the shipping weight of 1,000 average-size Hosts at 8.8 ounces. Allowing the decimal to drop off to cover the weight of the box, this gives us 8 ounces per 1,000 Hosts, or 125 Hosts per ounce. At 110 calories per ounce, this works out to 0.88 calories per Host.
Sacramental wine may taste terrible, but it isn't substantially different, nutritionally speaking, than any other wine. In point of fact, at the time of the vendange in the wine-growing regions of France, it is not uncommon for the church to receive locally-produced wine for use in Masses. Unfortified wines range from about 90 to 130 calories per 5-fluid-ounce serving. Sacramental wine tends toward the sweeter end of the spectrum, so let's be conservative and say 120 calories per 5 oz., or 24 calories per ounce. Each half-ounce sip of wine (we'll cover that later) gives you 12 calories' worth of wine. Add this to your bread and you've consumed nearly 13 calories in the ten seconds it takes you to move across the front of the church.
Long story short - I'm on my church council, I sing at mass every Sunday, and communion is not even a factor to me from a dietary standpoint. Even if it was, if you dip your host barely in the wine, you're probably looking at five calories - especially since the wine is mixed with holy water, up to a 1.1 ratio. :-)
Sacramental wine may taste terrible, but it isn't substantially different, nutritionally speaking, than any other wine. In point of fact, at the time of the vendange in the wine-growing regions of France, it is not uncommon for the church to receive locally-produced wine for use in Masses. Unfortified wines range from about 90 to 130 calories per 5-fluid-ounce serving. Sacramental wine tends toward the sweeter end of the spectrum, so let's be conservative and say 120 calories per 5 oz., or 24 calories per ounce. Each half-ounce sip of wine (we'll cover that later) gives you 12 calories' worth of wine. Add this to your bread and you've consumed nearly 13 calories in the ten seconds it takes you to move across the front of the church.
Long story short - I'm on my church council, I sing at mass every Sunday, and communion is not even a factor to me from a dietary standpoint. Even if it was, if you dip your host barely in the wine, you're probably looking at five calories - especially since the wine is mixed with holy water, up to a 1.1 ratio. :-)
From: Heather Twist <HeatherTwist@gmail.com>
To: fast5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 2:52:57 PM
Subject: Re: [fast5] A New Problem?
On the drinking issue: on another list I was on, a guy had the same issue. He found that fasting works a whole lot better if he "dry fasted" ... i.e. no liquids either. I'm not sure about the safety of that either, esp. on hot days and while exercising. But he did point out that during Ramadan, observant Muslims don't drink water either.
As for communion ... some people who do intermittent fasting do in fact eat small amounts of stuff (or take cream in their coffee) and it doesn't seem to affect them. Since this is something that happens (at most?) once a week, I probably wouldn't worry about it. I suspect the amount of calories would be close to the 5-calorie cutoff anyway (have you calculated it for the amount of bread they actually use?). If taking communion makes you get really hungry later in the day, THEN maybe it's time to worry about it. Or just figure Sundays aren't as strict for Fast-5 as the other 6 days of the week.
Communion is a rather interesting quandry for some people. The Catholic church declared that the host must have at least some wheat in it to be considered valid ... but celiacs are very intolerant of even the slightest bit of wheat gluten. Some of the other churches are serving no-gluten bread now on request, but some don't ... so how does a celiac person reconcile their faith with the fact that their faith requires them to eat something they know to be bad for them?
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Susan Sloate <cshalm@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello, all --
Thank you for the amazing number and variety of inspiring messages -- I really think Fast 5 is the right way for me to eat, but I have to admit I haven't been strict about doing it! (I'll bet a few other people on this list can relate.)
I've been lurking on this list for about a year (and believe me, people who know me would find that VERY strange -- I usually ALWAYS speak up!), but I feel as though I have a lot to learn and not much to add, so have thus far not said very much.
I do find that it's no problem at all for me to get through the morning and into the early afternoon (and that's with exercising as well). I have been finding that DRINKING can present a bit of a problem -- diet colas, tea AND even water tend to make me feel like wanting to eat! Not sure what that's about.
Obviously I don't want to not drink during the fast -- but I'm not sure what it will take to keep my hunger at bay once I've had something to drink.
However, I have another issue I haven't seen on the list yet and wanted to ask about.
On Sundays I attend church. I recently converted to Christianity, and my church time is very important to me. Naturally, there's the matter of taking communion. Depending on which service we attend, that's either around 9:45 am OR around 10:30. (In my church it's a bit of bread dipped in grape juice.)
As I see it, there are three options:
1) Consider the communion food as the opening of my window, though I don't like eating that early, esp. on Sunday.
2) Skip taking communion altogether.
3) Take communion, consider that food eaten outside my window, and then open my window at whatever time I choose that day.
I'm not crazy about option 1. (Tried it -- doesn't work too well.) Option 2 makes me emotionally uncomfortable. (I've tried that one too.)
Is there any caveat that allows for option 3?
Has anyone else encountered this issue, and how did you finally handle it?
I appreciate all your feedback and thank you again for all your encouragement!
Susan
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